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special test fixture - pinball
by Mitch Rohde 29 Sep '01

29 Sep '01

Folks, Just picked up a Gottlieb test fixture for, I believe, System 1 games. It is a black box with LED displays, an array of switches, and a harness coming out the back. I have little documentation. One of the Sys 1 repair manuals gives some info -- but very little. It mentions a test rom that goes with this device. Anyone else see one of these? Use one? Any info appreciated. Thanks, Mitch bovine(a)mediaone.net -- Mitch bovine(a)mediaone.net To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Midway Card Rack Test ROMs
by James Marous 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hi gang, traffic has been a little light so I though I would try this. I have 2 of the test boards for the Midway card rack series (Gorf, WoW, etc.). These are described in the "Card Rack System Part I" manual. There are 2 parts to this test setup, a ram test card and a pattern test card. In order to run the 2 tests, you have to swap rom sets, one set for ram test and one for pattern test. Now, I have the pattern test roms, as they were in the boards when I got them, but I don't have the ram test roms. Does anyone have them and could they possibly forward me a copy? I would be happy to send the pattern test roms if anyone needs them. Thanks James -- Email me! mailto:jamesm@erinet.com My Homepage: http://www.erinet.com/jamesm To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Fluke & S2650
by Mike Coates 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

>They have rather interesting ideas on using the units, plus making pods for processors that are not covered by the pods in (then) production - including making a pod for the 6503/6507/6512, NCS800, 2650... I would be *VERY* interested in the info on the s2650 conversion/pod - any chance of a copy of the relevant articles. I also would be interested in any info on the actual communication to/from pods, as I have another couple of ideas to check out. p.s. It appears that the rom checksum is generated by the pod rather than the software in the fluke - still investigating!

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Fluke 9010a + z80 pod questions
by Werner Sharp 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

I'm trying out my 9010 and z80 pod for the first time and having some troubles. The main unit and pod pass self test fine but don't work when I plug the pod into a z80 socket on a game board. I'm getting a "POD TIMEOUT - ATTEMPTING RESET" error when attempting any tests. I'm trying to troubleshoot the pod itself and the z80 pod manual says to "disable all forcing line and interrupt inputs and set all forcing line and interrupt traps to NO during Setup Editing". I can change the setup options fine but I don't see anything in the manuals about disabling forcing line and interrupt inputs. Does anyone know what that means? Any other advice about getting this going? Thanks for your help. -Werner To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Re: Fluke 9010a + z80 pod questions
by Mark Shostak 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Werner Sharp <sharpw(a)bellsouth.net> >I'm trying out my 9010 and z80 pod for the first time and having some >troubles. The main unit and pod pass self test fine but don't work when I >plug the pod into a z80 socket on a game board. I'm getting a "POD >TIMEOUT - ATTEMPTING RESET" error when attempting any tests. Generally this error will be reported if the UUT is either not powered up or has some other major problem. Does the game board work? Is it powered up? Are you sure? What board is it? I would ensure the UUT is powered and *try a different UUT* as well. Oh, is pin 1 at the correct end of the socket? >I'm trying to troubleshoot the pod itself IIRC that requires a second (working) identical POD. >and the z80 pod manual says to "disable all forcing line and interrupt >inputs and set all forcing line and interrupt traps to NO during Setup >Editing". I can change the setup options fine but I don't see anything >in the manuals about disabling forcing line and interrupt inputs. >Does anyone know what that means? Er, I know what the manual means, but I'm not sure what the sentence above means: You start off with "manual says to..." and end with "don't see anything in the manual about..." ??? You can scroll though the entire setup menu and all of the options you mentioned above are in there. You can set them all to "NO" if you like. Near as I can tell, that's what you seem to be saying the manual is trying to tell you to do. Did I mention making sure the UUT is powered up? :-) >Any other advice about getting this going? See above. >-Werner -Mark To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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FT: Fluke 9010a pod manuals
by Werner Sharp 04 Sep '01

04 Sep '01

My apologies in advance if there isn't supposed to be FS/FT traffic on this list. I have two pods manuals I'd like to trade: - 9000A-68000 Interface Pod Instruction Manual - 9000A-80186 Interface Pod Instruction Manual I'm looking for the 9010a Operators Manual and the Programming Manual. I know there are PDFs available; I'd just like the real thing. Thanks. Werner Sharp sharpw(a)bellsouth.net To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Signatures and Asteroids....
by John Robertson 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

OK, you all have Signature analyzers, right? and you have a small pile of sick Asteroids, right? Do you have a working one? I think I might have found a way to check out the !@#$@# loop in Asteroids using Signatures but someone is going to have to help with the research. I'm just trying to get rid of fixing the darn things as service headaches... Results to date: Start with a working Asteroids board, put it in your bench and feed it 5VDC. Find the two self test switches, the main one to get the grid and the second one that creates a diagonal line, and turn both on (pull Low). Clock -ve Phase 2 clip Start +ve A9-1 (HALT - when Low) Stop -ve A9-1 " " Now you should get Sig 3H16 on Vcc, and 0000 on Gnd. OK? Now you will find that you get stable and different signatures on the data pins for almost all the IC's!!! I have experimented with having just the 1st self test (grid) on and checking the Sigs, if all DIP-8 switches are on then you get Vcc 1P90 and D11-9 (DAC) PAA6, and if all switches are off then you get Vcc 3958 and D11-9 17HH. Note that this does not care which version of main program you have! I forgot to check with the other version of Vector ROM so your mileage may vary, but it sure looks interesting! I shall be having my apprentice tech going through the board and get the Sigs for as many points as seem to matter beyond the basic Sigs that Peter Frey (sp?) created. Perhaps I'll post them if we have the time...but you can get rolling fast with what I've given you tonight. Anyone want to tackle the FLUKE 9010A Signature headache?? John :-#)# PS - I'm going to post this on RGVAC to troll for more techs for the group.

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Re: VECTOR: Fluke 9100A Software needed
by Marc Alexander 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

Get this, it should allow you to do a 'raw' image copy of the floppy discs to your Windows PC, and copy it back out to another floppy, before using them. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm I haven't used it for this purpose, but I know it does it... Unless it's an old 5.25" floppy? There are other utils for the PC that will do a raw copy, let me know if you need it... Marc > Technically, it is possible to copy the disks. There > is a disk copy function in the 9100 software. The > only catch is... unless you have a working system > already running, you are going to have to use the > disks to get the machine running in the first place > and then the whole "marking the disks specifically for > the machine" deal kicks in. Dave, know anybody with a > working system that can dupe them for you before you > use them? > > -Chris > > > > --- John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > > Can you ask your friend in Holland if these can be > > duplicated for other > > 9100 owners? I have a working unit that I have never > > tried to figure out, > > but it would be nice to have backup setup discs. > > > > If permitted, could you make disc images for > > distribution to the owners of > > 9100's? > > > > John :-#)# > > > > At 02:42 AM 30/08/2001, you wrote: > > > > >Hi again ... > > > > > >A very nice man at Fluke in Holland just phoned me > > and agreed to send me > > >the 2 system disks and the 3 firmware disks for > > free ! > > > > > >:o) > > > > > > > > >Dave Langley > > >www.robotron-2084.co.uk > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message > > with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > > >** message body to vectorlist-request(a)synthcom.com. > > Please direct other > > >** questions, comments, or problems to > > neil(a)synthcom.com. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > ** message body to vectorlist-request(a)synthcom.com. Please direct other > ** questions, comments, or problems to neil(a)synthcom.com. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the ** message body to vectorlist-request(a)synthcom.com. Please direct other ** questions, comments, or problems to neil(a)synthcom.com.

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fluke 9100 stuff
by Andy Welburn 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

hi.. i have a working 9100a unit and i'm in the UK becasue i delivered dave's unit to him the same time i picked mine up :) i will happily copy disk and whatever t get the other unit running.. we had intended to do this anyhow.. sounds like we have progress.. We got two mainframe units, knowing one was bad, but neither of them were labelled which was which, it was pot luck that i got the worker and dave got the duffer :) heh anyhow.. i think we're also on the case of reading/writing os9 disks as i am anxious to get some programs written on the PC and used on the unit, seeing as the rs-232 seems like its not intended for file transfer... i'm just getting my teeth into asteroids and galaxians right now.. Andy

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Anyone need a Fluke 8088 pod?
by Werner Sharp 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

I have a line on two of these so would be interested in trading or selling the 2nd one. I'd love to trade for a 6502 pod (yeah, yeah, not too likely), but would also take other pods, maybe a 8080, 6809 or 8086. Please email me offers. Thanks. Werner Sharp To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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