September 2000 - TechToolsList - listserv.classicarcade.com

Re: 8086 pod for fluke?
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hey, that would be my cue :) All of the M72, M82, M84 games from Irem use a NEC V20 which is a 8086 with some extra instructions. It's also pin compatible so the 8086 pod is usable with it. Of course, there aren't exactly many of these around :) Chris (M72 = RType, Dragon Breed, XMultiply, + others, M82 = RType II, Pound for Pound, M84 = Major Title) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 8086 pod for fluke? Author: Noel Johnson <nej(a)airmail.net> at Internet Date: 1/17/00 12:09 AM Hello All, I am about to obtain an 8086 pod for a fluke 9010. Did any arcade games use the 8086 or am I going to have to trade this puppy away?? Thanks! Noel

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Re[2]: Fluke T-shooters
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Does anyone know if the scripts for the 9010 work on a 9100a?? It may also be of interest to know that someone (presumably Al Kossow) has scanned and pdf'ed a lot of the fluke manuals and uploaded them to www.spies.com/arcade. There's a fluke directory which has some 9010 scripts and the .exe to compile them, and in the TE directory there are manuals for the 9010,9100 and most of the POD's. (I presume Al wrote the scripts) Unfortunately, the user manual for the 9100 isn't there. Sigh... Chris (I would like a copy of the scipt also :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Fluke T-shooters Author: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> at Internet Date: 1/11/00 8:40 AM I found the Asteroids script, had downloaded it a while ago and it was lurking in the wrong area. Would anyone like a copy? John :-#)#

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Re: Programming the Fluke 9100 - Am I out of luck?
by ayeckley 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

>You should be able to tell if you have the programming option by > looking for the 9 pin D-type connection (like a serial port) on the back. Nope, I don't have it, but for some reason I do have the two 25 pin COM ports - utterly useless! >PS - If anyone understands keyboard interfacing and might be able to figure >out what makes the Fluke keyboard special (and hopefully make an adapter for >normal keyboards), let me know. I have a Fluke keyboard, minus keys, that I >can loan out if someone is serious about the project. I ran across a blurb in the service manual than mentions it uses a 2400 (IIRC) baud serial interface. My plan *was* to use a COM port on a PC to emulate the keyboard (there was also a table listing the key mapping), but there is little point if it won't get me anywhere. Sigh, thanks for your help. Looks like its back to the 9010 for me :-( Alex http://www.elektronforge.com ayeckley(a)elektronforge.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Data I/O Firmware Upgrades Available
by Chris Loggans 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

I just received a message from Memory & Logic Programming Services (the company that handles support for obsolete Data I/O products) that they have just received authorization from Data I/O to begin selling firmware upgrades for obsolete Data I/O programmers. I had contacted them a few months ago regarding this service and their position at the time was that Data I/O wouldn't allow them to sell the upgrades. Apparently, that has changed. I've requested a quote for upgrading my 121A so I'll let everyone know what the cost is. In case you are interested in looking into this for your own programmer, here's the contact info: Memory & Logic Programming Services 41 Logan Drive Newport, VT 05855-9683 Phone - 802-334-6088 Fax - 802-334-6095 Email - mlps(a)together.net Thanks, -Chris To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Testing Galaga...
by John Robertson 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

As many of you might know, Galaga presents some interesting headaches due to it being a multi-processor board, and sometimes the 74LS367's that interface the three processors to the system address bus can have problems. How to find the problem is where this trick lies. Get yourself a Z80 NOP and plug it into the Z80 socket for each of the three Z80's - one at a time. Now you can check the buffered address bus with ease at the pull-up resistors,finding any bad connections or bad 376's very quickly. I made up a Z80 NOP a few years ago, this has a Z80 CPU with the data legs, reset, NMI, Halt legs all bent up and over the top of the CPU, then you tie the DATA lines to NOP (00 I think), and the CPU controls to high with a pull-up resistor. Make a simple Reset circuit with a diode, capacitor and resistor so the Z80-NOP will ignore the board and away you go! This works for most processors by the way...some more info on NOPs is on http://www.spies.com/arcade I think where Al archived some of my notes... John :-#)# John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Hitachi Oscilloscope V-202F
by Magiera, Joe (AIT) 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

Hi All, Not very active on this list, more of a lurker trying to learn. I found an Hitachi Oscilloscope, model V-202F a couple of weeks ago. Nothing else, no cables or manuals, just the main unit. I have never used an o-scope before, but I'd love to learn how. I contacted Hitachi and they told me it was discontinued in February 1983. The did not have an owners manual for it (which would have been free). They did have a service manual, but that was $43.31 + shipping, and on further inquiry, found it was for the V-202 model, not the V-202F. I'm guessing the service manual is for maintenance of the unit itself, and won't get into how to use it. I know it's a long shot, but anyone have the owners manual for this unit? I'd like to "rent" it for a week or two so I could make a copy. Also, are cables fairly standard for o-scopes? Anyone have any recommendation as to what are the basic cables I need? The one bit of good news, when I powered it up, it all seems to work! :^) Any thoughts, opinions, help with documentation, would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe joe.magiera(a)ameritech.com

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TechToolsList archives?
by tom mcclintock 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

Are there any archives for the Tech Tools list? I've got a hankerin' for some signature Analysis discussions! tom

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RE: Logic Comparators
by Dale Luck 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

And a kit for a cap tester? That might be a bit more complicated. Dale

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RE: Logic Comparators
by Dale Luck 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

Where is a good place to purchase a Bug Trap? I already have the HP logic comparator and now you guys are making me believe I need this one. Dale

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RE: VECTOR: TECH: Omega Race, Kruz-Kash, and the Fluke 9010A
by John Robertson 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

I have a couple of them (one up on ebay), made by Bug Trap is my unit of choice, I also have an older HP but not so handy to use... John :-#)# At 04:32 PM 9/17/00, David Shoemaker wrote: >John, you mention a logic comparator, what model do you use? > >David > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-vectorlist(a)synthcom.com >[mailto:owner-vectorlist@synthcom.com]On Behalf Of John Robertson >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:50 AM >To: vectorlist(a)synthcom.com; techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >Subject: VECTOR: TECH: Omega Race, Kruz-Kash, and the Fluke 9010A > > >I just thought I'd bore you folks with some experiences I had fixing up an >Omega Race PCB... > >Pulled from stock, one very nice looking OR boardset-no corrosion at all >battery was removed years ago, looked like an easy sale so pulled out the >old KK test fixture and wired up my Hoie XY monitor. Dead. Disabled >Watchdog, and pulled out Fluke and plugged into Z80 socket, hmmm, can't >read any memory at all, yet Data Bus test is OK. Pulled 5101 and plugged >into the 5101 test fixture (a Stern pinball MPU with zip sockets)-dead, >ties data bus up. New 5101, still no reliable memory read, pulled out logic >comparator, and found bad 7432 (-memw), now could read RAM. Lots of ram >failures (turned out to be 5 bad 2114s), now couldn't read 2732s reliably, >dig more with comparator, bad 74ls08, now can read some Eproms. Pulled 0h >ROM, now could read all eproms. Hmm, check 0h Rom on programmer...Ok? Burn >a new one, now all Rom checks out (anyone like Fluke sigs for Erpoms?). >Repair Watchdog. Hook back up to XY, good picture, but Y pot does nothing, >turns out the 10K resistor is open. Now it works....total time about five >hours....sigh...never should start these old buggers some days. > >John :-#)# > > John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 > Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) > http://www.flippers.com > "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** To UNSUBSCRIBE from vectorlist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the >** message body to vectorlist-request(a)synthcom.com. Please direct other >** questions, comments, or problems to neil(a)synthcom.com. John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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