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Fluke 9010A (what else?)
by John Robertson 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Rummaging around the net I found, at Honeywell, the following CD: http://www.honeywelltraining.com/LearningTools-Interactive.asp ---------------------------- The interactive system CD-ROM program is designed to familiarize and prepare avionics bench technicians for troubleshooting microprocessor circuits using the Fluke 9010A Microprocessor Emulator and other testing tools. This course is broken down into five sections. Section 1 is an interactive description of the X86 microprocessor. Section 2 exemplifies the role of the microprocessor circuitry with interactive operations description of RAM, ROM, decoders, Buggers and I/O devices. Section 3 deals with the operation of the interactive troubleshooting complete with probable circuits and a software emulation of the Fluke 9010A Troubleshooter. The first five certificates are awarded at no charge. Additional certificates are awarded at a cost of $50.00 each. Honeywell Item ID# CD8150-05 ($500US! - ouch) ----------------------------- Has anyone heard of this? Or have anything that might be of use? I am going to be scanning in my copies of the Fluke Troubleshooter over the next week or so for uploading to Spies (or somewhere else for sharing, flippers.com is getting fulllllllllll.....) John :-#)# To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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9010A signature analysis option
by Peter Fyfe 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

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PromLink for the DATA I/O 29B and others...
by John Robertson 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Promlink 6.10 (works in Windows (mouse!) 95/98 and W2K) found with Google! http://www.hypertech.com/arcade/promlink/ John :-#)# To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Fluke Sigs for Spy Hunter
by Kev 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

I've got the Sound board stuff but not here. Is this stuff of any use to anyone or am I just wasting bandwidth? Kev mowerman(a)erols.com FLUKE 9010A info for Spy Hunter 2764 Memory Loc Loc Checksum 6D $0000-1FFF 6D 0CE5 7D $2000-3FFF 7D 425E 8D $4000-5FFF 8D 49B4 9D $6000-7FFF 9D 1C6B 10D $8000-9FFF 10D 266C 11D $A000-BFFF 11D 393F Signal Location Pin Freq Duty Cycle Scope Setting Fluke Function !HCLK 8A 13 10Mhz Sine HO 11B 18 5Mhz *HO 11B 15 5Mhz H1 11B 18 2.5Mhz *H1 11B 14 2.5Mhz *H2 11B 13 1.25Mhz 49.50% HBLNK 11B 12 15.7Khz 19% To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: Fluke Pods, repairs /trades?
by Ranger Mike 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

If anyone runs across a stash of 6809, let us know :-) Mike (has z-80, 6502, 9900 (?), probe) > -----Original Message----- > From: Kev [SMTP:KKlopp@erols.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:18 AM > To: TechToolsList(a)flippers.com > Subject: Fluke Pods, repairs /trades? > > Anyone give me an idea what it would take to repair a 8080 pod with a 3 > error code? > > Does anyone have any pods to sell/trade? (I could use 8080, 6809, 6800). > > I've found a working unit with > RS-232 port > probe > Z80 > 6502 > 8080 > manuals > > the 8080 pod is defective. Is anyone interested? > > Thanks, > Kev > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in > the > message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other > questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Fwd: Re: 9010 compiler
by John Robertson 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

> >Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:58:28 >To: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >From: "Fredric L. Rice" <frice(a)skeptictank.org> >Subject: Re: 9010 compiler > >At 11:03 PM 04/01/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >Thanks for releasing that, you'd be surprised how many > >of us are still using or trying to figure out the use > >of this great tool. We use ours for checking older video > >and pinball game logic boards. > >That seems to be the industry that's got interest. >I didn't know that anybody else was using the thing. > > >One trick I am trying to solve is how to generate > >checksums instead of the weird (HP format) signature > >that Fluke elected to use as their ROM check tool. > >Have you any thoughts on this or, perhaps, a simple > >solution. > >It's not so simple yet yes, there's a solution. >You can locate the Z80 code inside of the F9010a >that generates the CRC. If you locate the >address of the entry point of the subroutine, >you could then look for the jump table that >exists in the machine which is used to vector >to when CRCs are requested and you can install >your own routine. > >The CRC code is in ROM so you couldn't use my >compiler to insert a Z80 checksum subroutine on >top of the Fluke's CRC routine but you _could_ >change the address in the Fluke's jump table to >point to a _different_ routine that you could >install into the box using my compiler. > >Finding the jump table entry would take time >since you would need to locate the CRC subroutine, >note the starting address, and then locate the >jump table in RAM. Then you can use my compiler >to create a Z80 checksum routine, then you can >change the jump table entry to call that routine >instead of the real CRC. > >It's tricky but it can be done. > > >I have only just started to read your documentation.... > >perhaps I should just read it closely and get back > >to you later. > >Thanks! > >No problem! Glad to help. > > >Oh, are you familiar with the other compiler for > >the 9010A? It does some of what yours appears to > >do, from within a single DOS based program, but the > >documentation for it was essentially non-existent. > >I can email you a copy of it if you are curious. > >I played with the compiler that Fluke sells and >was annoyed that it was so simple. There's no >real difference between what their compiler does >and what's possible from the keyboard and the >only real benefit of their compiler is the ability >to have comments in the code. That's a _BIG_ plus >since turn-around makes documenting source code >so valuable. > >So I wrote my own and thought I might sell it to >Fluke. I got back a note telling me that since it >had no sales research, no product research, and >wasn't created in house, there was no interest >in it. > > >Ii have a small mail-list for technical tools, > >that tends to be mostly about the 9010a, called > >techtoolslist @flippers.com, if you want to join > >(and be asked a few questions) it's > >techtoolslist-request@... subject: Subscribe. > >Again, thanks. > >John Robertson :-#)# > >I'll subscribe, yes. I don't use the F9010a any >more but if my compiler is going to make the >rounds, that would be a good forum for answering >questions and seeing if anybody has bug fixes or >changes or features they might want. > >At the same time I also designed and built a >TTL chip tester and wrote a library for the 74LS >series TTL chips that worked with my compiler. >My device was basically a board with a 40 pin >socket for the Z80 pod to plug in to, a 4MHZ >clock source, some bi-directional latches, and >a zero-insertion-force socket for the TTL chip >under test. > >My device routed the 16 address lines of the >Z80 pod to every pin of the zero-insertion-force >socket, isolated by some gates. It also routed >the 8 data pins to al 16 pins of the zero- >insertion-force socket. Using my compiler I >could read and write addresses addresses which >would drive the inputs to the TTL chip and read >the outputs of the TTL chip. I wrote software >that drove counters to count up then read the >results to give a PASS/FAIL indication on the >Fluke 9010a. > >I have those 74LS programs for my compiler yet I >suspect I would be hard pressed to find the >schematic to my TTL tester. If I can find it >I'll enter it into an ORCAD schematic and I'll >make it all available. > >If you want, you can dump this message into the >mailing list. To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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9010 compiler - FREE!
by John Robertson 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

Al Kossow just posted this link for a compiler for the 9010A on RGVAC http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C3602B8.D552E70D%40SkepticTank.ORG (the correct link) I haven't had a chance to check it out, but enjoy! John :-#)# To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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9010 compiler - FREE!
by John Robertson 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

Al Kossow just posted this link for a compiler for the 9010A on RGVAC http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice/f9010.zip I haven't had a chance to check it out, but enjoy! John :-#)# To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Re: Fluke - CRC's revisited
by John Robertson 27 Dec '01

27 Dec '01

You aren't talking about the diagram on page 8-11 of the Service Manual are you? That is the signature generator for the probe. As far as I can figure out the signature is generated in the pod software. The Algorithm is the HP signature one, X(16) + X(12) + X(9) + X(7) + X as I recall. This is the algorithm generated on page 8-11. I have a friend who is trying to create a lookup table algorithm or a way of reverse engineering the data to either generate a signature or checksum from the data or a file on a hard drive (to generate sigs for referral). The data can be read a byte at a time from the pod and added in the base unit, but I don't have the knowledge to do the job at it as I have not found the help file for the Fluke Algorithm program. There are some commands that are not explained, and there should be a way of massaging the data with the base unit... Anyone find some more tapes that they can send in for the group? Any text on using the rksic.exe program? John :-#)# At 03:01 PM 12/27/01 -0500, you wrote: >well, with the help of a hardware friend, I think we may have discovered why >the code for the flukes checksum cannot be discovered easily - it's done >using hardware! > >In the circuit are some NOR gates connected together, these are the feedback >for the hardware CRC. We (for this read 'Phillip - the hardware' guy!) can >work out what the algorithm is, and hopefully let everyone else share in >this information. To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Fluke - CRC's revisited
by Mike Coates 27 Dec '01

27 Dec '01

well, with the help of a hardware friend, I think we may have discovered why the code for the flukes checksum cannot be discovered easily - it's done using hardware! In the circuit are some NOR gates connected together, these are the feedback for the hardware CRC. We (for this read 'Phillip - the hardware' guy!) can work out what the algorithm is, and hopefully let everyone else share in this information.

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