May 2002 - TechToolsList - listserv.classicarcade.com

Re: 8086 pod for fluke?
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hey, that would be my cue :) All of the M72, M82, M84 games from Irem use a NEC V20 which is a 8086 with some extra instructions. It's also pin compatible so the 8086 pod is usable with it. Of course, there aren't exactly many of these around :) Chris (M72 = RType, Dragon Breed, XMultiply, + others, M82 = RType II, Pound for Pound, M84 = Major Title) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 8086 pod for fluke? Author: Noel Johnson <nej(a)airmail.net> at Internet Date: 1/17/00 12:09 AM Hello All, I am about to obtain an 8086 pod for a fluke 9010. Did any arcade games use the 8086 or am I going to have to trade this puppy away?? Thanks! Noel

2 2

Re[2]: Fluke T-shooters
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Does anyone know if the scripts for the 9010 work on a 9100a?? It may also be of interest to know that someone (presumably Al Kossow) has scanned and pdf'ed a lot of the fluke manuals and uploaded them to www.spies.com/arcade. There's a fluke directory which has some 9010 scripts and the .exe to compile them, and in the TE directory there are manuals for the 9010,9100 and most of the POD's. (I presume Al wrote the scripts) Unfortunately, the user manual for the 9100 isn't there. Sigh... Chris (I would like a copy of the scipt also :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Fluke T-shooters Author: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> at Internet Date: 1/11/00 8:40 AM I found the Asteroids script, had downloaded it a while ago and it was lurking in the wrong area. Would anyone like a copy? John :-#)#

6 15

RE: Replace the 9010A base with an IBM Parallel port?
by John Robertson 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Does anyone here want to assist by disassembling the Z80 (or 6502 or 680X) code in one of the pods to figure out the command codes? Now that we have an idea of the results, a list of the command codes might make it very easy to continue to the next stage-actually talking to a pod on the parallel port. I think it is actually not going to be that difficult.... The code is on the archive site ftp://ftp.flippers.com/Fluke John :-#)# --------------------------------------------<results if you missed them>------------------------------------------------- More results: Great, when you do a First READ on the pod, you get a RESET to the pod, and a bunch of chatter: READ FE55 = 31: 30 35 REAL LONG PAUSE ... RESET AB 36 38 30 32 20 20 PAUSE FOR (about) TWO CYCLES(2P) 24 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF (P) (P) (P) 00 00 00 00 (P) FF FF FF FE (P) 00 00 08 00 30 (P) 4D 52 20 20 20 20 P P P P 48 41 4C 54 20 20 P P P 0E 00 06 30 00 LONG PAUSE HERE.....PERHAPS 10 TIME UNITS THEN 30 35 55 31 00 Now I'll try to do some more reads...This is exactly the order as entered... Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, high address, low address, data read, Stop) N MP MP MP MP MP ( N means no handshaking, M is MAINSTAT & P is PODSTAT) 4567 FF = 5A 35 45 67 FF 00 89AB FF = 53 35 89 AB FF 00 0001 00 = AB 35 00 01 00 00 Write @ Loc. Data N MP MP MP MP 0101 AA = 01 23 01 AA 00 MP 2055 56 = AA 33 20 55 56 00 0101 43 = 56 33 01 01 43 00 Read... N MP MP MP MP MP 2055 FF = 43 35 20 55 FF 00 F808 FF = 55 35 F8 08 FF 00 F9AB FF = 08 35 F9 AB FF 00 FDEA FC = AB 35 FD EA FC 00 I think I now see the pattern for reads/writes. The first byte is the LAST DATA, note that the timing for that is such that MAINSTAT and PODSTAT have done nothing until the second byte. I suspect the 1st data byte is there for the REPEAT function...so lets try that... Repeat... N MP MP MP FDEA FC = EA 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 OK, for REPEAT the first Byte (again before M or Podstat) is 1st the last data,then the last instruction. Now lets try a write again... Write... N MP MP MP MP MP 0123 45 = 05 33 01 23 45 00 0123 66 = 45 03 66 00 (much shorter for a second write to the same address!) Thus 03 is "Same Address Write" Read... N MP MP MP MP 0124 00 = 66 15 24 00 00 (hmmm looks like "15" is read increment(?) to next byte. let's test... 0125 00 = 24 15 25 00 00 (now lets skip a few...) 012F 00 = 25 15 2F 00 00 (and a few more...) 0138 00 = 2F 15 38 00 00 (lets shift up a little ways...) 0238 FF = 38 25 02 FF 00 (interesting...seems to latch the 38, ok, lets change both a bit) 0339 EF = 02 35 03 39 EF 00 (OK, it caught that, "35" might mean "new address read") I think the pattern that is coming out is something close to this X3 = write, X5 = read, if X = 0 then same address, if X = 1, then same address high byte, if X = 2 then latch low address byte, if X = 3 new address bytes. Yes, this looks right so far... TIMING The very first byte is BEFORE you get any handshaking...then you get MAINSTAT, then shortly after you get PODSTAT which ends just after MAINSTAT ends, then the remaining handshaking has POD end with MAIN. Boy I wish this had time marks... John :-#)# ...:56 AM 05/03/2002 -0800, John Robertson wrote: >>Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, >>high address, low address, data read, Stop) > > 0208 FF = 00 35 02 08 FF 00 > 0505 EF = 99 35 05 05 EF 00 > 1050 FF = 13 35 10 50 FF 00 > FE55 31 = 00 35 FE 55 31 00 > >Got it! the first data byte seems to grab the pods attention, often a 00, >but perhaps (?) not that important, but it certainly looks like a Clean >(no other read action in front) Read is "35" then the address and the >resulting data. It appears that multiple reads change the communication >with the pod in the sense that if you take two reads (different locations) >in a row the command string is different. Stay tuned this evening when I >dig into more reads and test the writes. > >John :-#)# > > >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 (result) >> 0101 FE = 00 21 00 FE 00 >> 0200 EF = 01 35 02 00 EF >> 00(result - a little longer this time...) >> 0300 EF = 00 26 03 EF 00 >> 8000 EF = 02 26 80 EF 00 >> C000 FF = 80 26 C0 FF 00 >> F800 FF = C0 26 F8 FF 00 >> FC00 8E = F8 26 FC 8E 00 >> FC05 8D = FC 16 05 8D 00 >> FCEE EE = 05 16 CC EE 00 >> 0200 EF = CC 35 02 EF 00 (same >> length as others now...) >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 >> >>Now I'll try some writes: >>Write @ Location Data (results) >> 0000 55 = 00 03 55 00 >> 0100 AA = 55 25 01 AA 00 >> 0200 AA = CC 23 02 AA 00 >> 8000 44 = CC 23 80 44 00 >> EF08 11 = 0C 33 EF 08 11 00 >> (longer) >> >>Well, that's all for tonight, I'm getting tired... >> >>John :-#()#

2 6

Micro Concepts Boardwalker 101
by Corey Stup 15 May '03

15 May '03

Does anyone else have one of these units? I've disassembled the software in order to update the unit to a wider range of devices supported. Looking to see if anyone has any other version of firmware in their unit. Mine has the base software as V2.50, 03/19/87. Library is "STD" V1.6 2/18/87.

5 13

RAM tester?
by Joe Magiera 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

3 3

Fluke clock module.
by Philip Mayor 17 Jun '02

17 Jun '02

7 30

Cracking the 9010A ROM signature generator
by John Robertson 15 Jun '02

15 Jun '02

I give up, I am way too frustrated by this stupid signature crap so I am going to dive into my 9010 and see if I can figure out how it is doing it. I first have to figure out if it is in the pod or the base unit, when the signature is being generated I see lots of activity on the pod data buss, so I am assuming the process is handled inside the stupid base. I am going to also see if I can figure out mathematically the difference between the fluke signature and the regular checksum by reading a small bit of data and then doing a checksum on the same bit of data, then extrapolating it from there. I suspect that the unit is taking each data line and adding it up, then the next data line...and summing them all together or in series. Gah. digging into it tonight, perhaps I can report out later this evening what I fine. Any suggestions? I am NOT an assembly language person...I can read it a bit, I understand the process, but I have not programmed with the stuff more than a few lines. If someone wants to disassemble the ROM in the base unit, the images are on ftp://www.flippers.com/public and I found a nice Z80 disassemble called DZ80 http://www.inkland.demon.co.uk/dz80/index.htm heh, heh... John :-#)# To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

7 15

Fluke SCORE!!!
by John Robertson 08 Jun '02

08 Jun '02

2 7

Re: Fluke 9100 repository?
by Kev 01 Jun '02

01 Jun '02

>Kev has raised a good point about the lack of 9100 orientated info around.. >plenty of 9010, but as any good 9100 owner would know, the rom signatures do >differ.. > >I have a stack of sigs taken from a whole host of pcbs, all on some rather >battle-worn notepads that i do need to type up and put in a >printable/readable format... > >I seem to remember John saying somethign about a fluke resource on his site, >but the exact details escape me this minute.. > ftp://ftp.flippers.com There is no list there yet. I do have some 9010A signatures that I've posted to the newslist before & had 2 other members respond & send in a few more, with such paultry response I didn't pursue posting them. 9100 responses probably will be even lower in relationship to the number of these. Most of the 9100 manuals that I know of are posted on the ftp site (if you have any not posted please let us know). 9100 software is the next focus, still trying to find a working copy of the 9100 Autolearn program and cross compiler. And then I hope to start writing some useful scripts. >i need reminding.. where are they, how can i add to them, and would there be >a html version instead of just a directory style listing? > I used either word 95/97 or Excel 95/97 documents. Text files would be better (or html). One question that I posted a few weeks ago is what method do 9100 owners use to collect signatures? My firmware defaults to a step 2 method that I reset to step 1 when I collect my signatures. Thanks, Kev

4 3

Fluke 9100 repository?
by Andy Welburn 31 May '02

31 May '02

hi all.. Kev has raised a good point about the lack of 9100 orientated info around.. plenty of 9010, but as any good 9100 owner would know, the rom signatures do differ.. I have a stack of sigs taken from a whole host of pcbs, all on some rather battle-worn notepads that i do need to type up and put in a printable/readable format... I seem to remember John saying somethign about a fluke resource on his site, but the exact details escape me this minute.. i need reminding.. where are they, how can i add to them, and would there be a html version instead of just a directory style listing? just an idea... Andy

2 1