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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke on Mario Bros.
by David Shoemaker 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

Looking at the manual for the Z80QT pod and the schematic I think I am getting an expected result. I hooked up the pod and hit BUS to run the bus test. I immediately get back CTL ERR showing 00000010 this is the HALT line. Looking at the schematic it appears HALT and INT are both tied together and pulled high. So the fluke can't exercise that line. Any way to ignore that error and verify the rest of the bus test? Oh and according the manual maximum clock frequency is 8.0 mhz. Does that mean this pod support Z80A/B/C ? From: David Shoemaker [mailto:davids@oz.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:38 PM To: 'Technical Tools Mail List' Subject: Fluke on Mario Bros. Anyone know if you can use either the base z80 pod or the z80qt pod on Mario bros? I know it uses the Z80A but I don't know what the pod is rated at. Thanks, David _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9000A mystery adapter (for me at least ;-)
by John Robertson 20 Feb '18

20 Feb '18

I have a pod module here called "Z8 I/F ADAPTER" Fluke #9000-200/AB. It has no cable to the base, just a 40 pin CPU cable. Inside is a couple of RAM chips, and some Fluke hybrid interface ICs. Any guesses? John :-#)#

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Any Taito Bench Tester documentation available?
by James Marous 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

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FLUKE 9100A SCSI to CF Adapter - Success with Stratos CF AZTECMONSTER
by techtools-steve 04 Mar '13

04 Mar '13

I received a couple emails inquiring about the SCSI to CF adapter I used so here are the details. Everything you need is currently available at a reasonable price and the physical installation was rather painless. The adapter I used is the Stratos CF AZTECMONSTER and you can buy one direct from Japan http://www.artmix.com/CF_AztecMonster.html but I found it easier and with significantly cheaper shipping to pick one up on ebay. There were multiple listings for the board on ebay yesterday but it appears each had multiple bidders and closed above the starting price. My FLUKE 9100A has the V6 roms installed and was configured using Service Disk 1.4. I have successfully loaded the v4-1b software with the v6.1 update pending availability of new disks (hint-hint Andre)! http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_01.jpg http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_02.jpg <http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_01.jpg> http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_03.jpg <http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_01.jpg> http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_04.jpg <http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_01.jpg> http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_05.jpg <http://arcadehacking.com/public/fluke/FLUKE9100A_CF_AZTECHMONSTER_01.jpg> I hope this info helps someone else unbrick their Fluke 9100 after a fatal hard disk failure. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: Cracking the 9010A ROM signature generator
by Kev 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

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9100A promotional video up on TTL.
by John Robertson 26 Jan '13

26 Jan '13

I've just archived the video file from: http://tech.quarterarcade.com/Fluke9100/Fluke9100.avi (it is still there - thanks James!) On the TTL FTP site, under /Fluke/9100a/9100_Promotional_Video/Fluke9100.avi It is about 16 minutes of info on what the 9100A can do for your troubleshooting company and why you really should get one. Quite well done, and worth the watching if you have a 9100 and are wondering if you want to put time into getting it running well. I can see doing some scripts for pinball boards, and - as the probe can handle TTL, CMOS, and RS-232 levels it may even work with the Gottlieb System 1 MPU - ground reference needs to be watched though, that minus 12VDC might be a problem otherwise... The last mention on TTL about this video was in 2004 or 2005, so I thought some folks might be interested in see it. It is 75MB in size, and FireFox won't show it unless you are running something like VLC to open .avi files - FireFox defaults to Quicktime which can't handle it (AFAIK). John :-#)# _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Kurz-Kasch ROM Test II and ROM Test I
by Pat Danis 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

I found these items just today. Will go thru what I have tomorrow morning and try to figure out what is what. Pat Sent from my Galaxy S®III -------- Original message -------- From: teeray <teeray(a)earthlink.net> Date: To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Kurz-Kasch ROM Test II and ROM Test I Can anyone help with some info on these two devices? Am I correct in assuming ROM Test I - a small device that connects to any Signature Analyzer to preform a full ROM signature. Was made to go along with the Signature II analyzer. ROM Test II - self contained device that displays a full ROM Signature on it's own LED display. Is this correct? Schematics would be great. Any info would be a big help. Also I found the follow in a search of the techtoollist and some signatures of game roms on the TTL ftp site. Thanks to John I have a list of the adapters these devices use, but that's it, no pin out info. of the devices or adapters. Thanks Tim -----Original Message----- >From: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >Sent: Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM >To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Kurz-Kasch ROM Test II > >Pat Danis wrote: >> John: >> >> Pretty sure I have one of these and a photocopy of the manual as >> well. Let me dig around and see what I can find. I don't have a >> scanner......sad isn't it?.......so I will have to get a friend to >> scan it for you. I'll let you know. May have some sockets as well. >> >> Pat > >Well, it now appears to work. Had a couple of bad 244s that I tracked >down by assuming someone plugged the sub-boards in backwards and so I >simply did a diode check on the small PCB edge connectors relative to >common. After replacing the two TTL ICs the device now produces what >appears to be a Signature for ROMs inserted in the socket - not a >Checksum (rats!). > >And it is not the Fluke FIDE Signature, so now I have to track down a >file to HP style signature converter to see if the device actually works >as intended, my eprom programmer does not generate a Signature for ROM... > >Thanks for the offer of a copy of the manual - I will add it, of course, >to TTL FTP once it appears. > >I suspect this tool is going to sit on the shelf a lot... > >John :-#)# >> >> On 1/5/2011 7:41 PM, John Robertson wrote: >>> John Robertson wrote: >>>> Anyone have one of these? I am in need of either schematics or some >>>> voltage measurements from the regulator PCB. Just 'won' this off >>>> eBay and it really doesn't work (not surprising given the description). >>>> >>>> The device looked useful - my assumption was it would generate a >>>> CheckSum of an Eprom inserted into the socket - it has four >>>> seven-segment displays after all! It uses a Z80 that appears to be >>>> wired up as a NOP, but it uses several voltages - perhaps -5 and +12 >>>> for the 2708s etc. I only have one socket - 2764-27128, if anyone >>>> has any of the sockets I'd be interested in pictures to try to >>>> figure out the pinout assuming no schematics or manual turns up that >>>> is! >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> John :-#)# >>>> >>> OK, the regulator board turns off the -12 and +12 unless the TEST >>> button is pressed. I assume that is to protect the Eprom... >>> >>> Still digging... >>> >>> John :-#)# >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3361 - Release Date: 01/05/11 >>> >>> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Kurz-Kasch ROM Test II and ROM Test I
by teeray 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

Can anyone help with some info on these two devices? Am I correct in assuming ROM Test I - a small device that connects to any Signature Analyzer to preform a full ROM signature. Was made to go along with the Signature II analyzer. ROM Test II - self contained device that displays a full ROM Signature on it's own LED display. Is this correct? Schematics would be great. Any info would be a big help. Also I found the follow in a search of the techtoollist and some signatures of game roms on the TTL ftp site. Thanks to John I have a list of the adapters these devices use, but that's it, no pin out info. of the devices or adapters. Thanks Tim -----Original Message----- >From: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >Sent: Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM >To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Kurz-Kasch ROM Test II > >Pat Danis wrote: >> John: >> >> Pretty sure I have one of these and a photocopy of the manual as >> well. Let me dig around and see what I can find. I don't have a >> scanner......sad isn't it?.......so I will have to get a friend to >> scan it for you. I'll let you know. May have some sockets as well. >> >> Pat > >Well, it now appears to work. Had a couple of bad 244s that I tracked >down by assuming someone plugged the sub-boards in backwards and so I >simply did a diode check on the small PCB edge connectors relative to >common. After replacing the two TTL ICs the device now produces what >appears to be a Signature for ROMs inserted in the socket - not a >Checksum (rats!). > >And it is not the Fluke FIDE Signature, so now I have to track down a >file to HP style signature converter to see if the device actually works >as intended, my eprom programmer does not generate a Signature for ROM... > >Thanks for the offer of a copy of the manual - I will add it, of course, >to TTL FTP once it appears. > >I suspect this tool is going to sit on the shelf a lot... > >John :-#)# >> >> On 1/5/2011 7:41 PM, John Robertson wrote: >>> John Robertson wrote: >>>> Anyone have one of these? I am in need of either schematics or some >>>> voltage measurements from the regulator PCB. Just 'won' this off >>>> eBay and it really doesn't work (not surprising given the description). >>>> >>>> The device looked useful - my assumption was it would generate a >>>> CheckSum of an Eprom inserted into the socket - it has four >>>> seven-segment displays after all! It uses a Z80 that appears to be >>>> wired up as a NOP, but it uses several voltages - perhaps -5 and +12 >>>> for the 2708s etc. I only have one socket - 2764-27128, if anyone >>>> has any of the sockets I'd be interested in pictures to try to >>>> figure out the pinout assuming no schematics or manual turns up that >>>> is! >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> John :-#)# >>>> >>> OK, the regulator board turns off the -12 and +12 unless the TEST >>> button is pressed. I assume that is to protect the Eprom... >>> >>> Still digging... >>> >>> John :-#)# >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3361 - Release Date: 01/05/11 >>> >>> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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9100A motherboard revisions...
by John Robertson 13 Jan '13

13 Jan '13

I have six of these things in the shop right now and was noticing the revision numbers on the logic boards. The first I have is Rev. C going up to Rev. G-1 - which is the interesting one as it allows for HD floppies. This revision is a small series of jumper wires and a three cuts to the group of traces just to the right of the Floppy Drive connector. The other revisions appear to only relate to parts mounted on the boards - different brands of connectors, reset switch changed, etc. as all the ICs stayed the same as far as we could tell by an eyeball examination. Making these changes does appear to enable 1.44 drives on revisions that previously only had 720 drives so I am going to write it all up - but for now you can look at the pictures of the jumpers and cuts and try it yourself...I believe you need the 40 meg version of the Bios installed as well (2 X 27512 Eproms). ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/9100A/Photos I will add Rev. C photos later so you can see the differences. If anyone has anything later than Rev. G-1 please get in touch in case something else was added.... John :-#)# _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9100 CRC Algorithm
by teeray 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

I know Andy Welburn wrote a CRC32 script for the 9100, but does anyone have info on the CRC algorithm used in the Fluke 9100 ? >From what I understand it is not the same as the Fluke 9010 Thanks Tim _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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