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RE: [Techtoolslist] Interesting stuff on eBay...
by David Shoemaker 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

I never do component level work in the field other than Williams ram. -----Original Message----- From: "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> Sent: ‎6/‎12/‎2013 4:46 PM To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Interesting stuff on eBay... On 06/12/2013 4:25 PM, Alan McCormick wrote: > I have a Z80 Fluke 90 and someplace I have the manual. IIRC the manual > seemed to infer that there were similar versions for other MPUs > although I've never seen another 90 of any sort. It does have a > built-in serial port which I used to do memory dumps of some protected > games. Picked mine up for $20 at a hamfest years ago. > > The auction comments about it needing a power supply are misleading. > It leeches off the UUT but iirc there was an external PSU that could > be used if the UUT couldn't handle the extra current. > > Never opened mine up. Don't think my manual had schematics. I never saw any schematics for this device, other than what I made up to convert another one I had to Z80. These can work well as long as the board designer followed the Z80 manufacturers specs and used pull-up resistors on Bus Request and a few others. There are at least four CPUs covered in the series, Z80, 8085, 6809 and another...and it is interesting to watch the device in action, testing RAM while the game is running in attract mode is quite amusing! However I must confess these all sit on the shelf as giant dust bunnies as I use the 9010 instead on the few game boards I still service. However for field work they would be great, so (quick poll) how many of us fix 8-bit CPU based devices in the field?? John :-#)# > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> > *To:* "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:53 PM > *Subject:* [Techtoolslist] Interesting stuff on eBay... > > Fluke 90 series Z80 on-board tester (I have one so am not bidding): > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310687268151&ssPageName=… > > Also a bunch of Kurz-Kash adapter cards (I already have all those so > am not bidding on any): > > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Kasch&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570… > > > John :-#)# > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com <mailto:Techtoolslist@flippers.com> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > > -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Interesting stuff on eBay...
by John Robertson 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

Fluke 90 series Z80 on-board tester (I have one so am not bidding): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310687268151&ssPageName=… Also a bunch of Kurz-Kash adapter cards (I already have all those so am not bidding on any): http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Kasch&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570… John :-#)# _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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RE: [Techtoolslist] BK IC Tester 552
by David Shoemaker 08 Jun '13

08 Jun '13

Oh looked the 560 up. Lets take price negotiations off the list :) -----Original Message----- From: "Art" <art(a)artfromny.com> Sent: ‎6/‎8/‎2013 11:04 AM To: "jrr(a)flippers.com" <jrr(a)flippers.com>; "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] BK IC Tester 552 Anyone have interest in a working B&K 560 and a working 545? Both used, clean, were working in 2006 and stored since - will retest before shipping if they sell. Offers? thanks Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> To: "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] BK IC Tester 552 > On 06/08/2013 1:11 AM, Fabrizio Vasile wrote: >> Hi Jose, >> it's a logic comparator, I guess you won it on Ebay some days ago.The 552 >> model you have is for CMOS testing while the 550 model is for TTL.I have >> both of these. >> The operation simply; put a good known IC in the ZIF socket, connect the >> clip to the IC on the unit under test, press the TEST button.If the OK >> led will light, then the IC is good otherwise some of the numbered LEDs >> will go ON telilng you there is a problem on that PIN (usually >> outputs).Please, keep in mind that this device is not perfect and it will >> give you false positive when, for example, output of an IC is tied to >> GROUND or VCC or when you are testing particular devices like flip-flop, >> counters, latches (you have to CLEAR these before testing).Obviously, >> your comparator need to take POWER and GROUND from the unit under test by >> connecting the RED and BLACK clips. >> Later I will scan the manual of my B&K 552 and send it to you. >> >> P.S. >> Did you find your Fluke 68000 POD at the end? >> > > Please send me a copy too, for the TTL archives. > > Thanks, > > John :-#)# >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Luiz Martins" >> <joseluizmartins(a)gmail.com> >> To: "Technical Tools Mail List" <Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 3:40 AM >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] BK IC Tester 552 >> >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I fond one BK 552 IC Tester but I don't have it's manual. >>> >>> Can someone tell me how this tester works please? >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> > > > -- > John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 > Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) > www.flippers.com > "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" > > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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BK IC Tester 552
by Jose Luiz Martins 08 Jun '13

08 Jun '13

Hi! I fond one BK 552 IC Tester but I don't have it's manual. Can someone tell me how this tester works please? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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HP 1980b replacement thyristor...
by Andrew Welburn 04 Jun '13

04 Jun '13

hi all.. I have a HP 1980b oscilloscope that has a shorted thyristor, marked 1884-0217.. after looking online and getting two quotes for a replacement ($777.77 and $600 each!) i decided to hunt a replacement. I managed to pick up a service manual for this thing, and helpfully HP lists the 1884-0217 with a manufacturer number of MAC10-2 I can't find any of those either just yet, but wondered if a replacement MAC10-3 might be ok as i can get one of those.. http://www.datasheetarchive.com/MAC10-2-datasheet.html The MAC10-2 has a maximum repetitve peak voltage of 50v, the MAC10-3 is 100v... Its used in the LVPS (pcb A1 refdes A1Q2), would having a higher maximum repetitve peak voltage cause problems when replacing a Triac/Thyristor? any advice appreciated! -- Andrew Welburn http://www.andys-arcade.com _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Convert pod to Z80?
by John Robertson 29 May '13

29 May '13

Not that I need this for me, but with the relative rarity of Z80 pods these days I have to wonder if something like an 8080 pod could be converted to Z80... Just a thought. John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by JJ 15 May '13

15 May '13

I think the cable is the issue. I'm running a db9 on the PC end and a db25 on the fluke end. I believe I need pin 7 of the db9 to pin 5 of the db25 as well as pin 8 of the db9 to pin 4 of the db25. These are the request and clear to send and none of these ohm out. I believe these are the handshake. I will try the low baud as suggested. Thanks Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Rodger Boots <rlboots2(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Another possible way to help your problem is to decrease the baud rate. >What typically happens at high baud rates is that data transfers fine until >you hit a carriage return, then all the data that was just sent has to be >processed. If the sender keeps going you overrun the character buffer in >the receiving device. Something as old as a 29A wouldn't handle more than >2 characters before overflowing. That's where handshaking comes in. But >if you use hardware handshaking (the best choice at high speeds), the >device stops the computer from sending until it's ready to go again. > >But you can run without any handshaking if the baud rate is low enough. > >So if you set the baud rate to something nasty slow (like 1200 or less) and >the two machines then worked THAT would tell you that handshaking is the >problem. At least gives a clue. > > >On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:38 PM, JJ <rugd2go(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> I tried the prior and all my settings look good. Anyone have the cable >> pin outs? I would like to ohm out the cable. >> >> Thanks >> >> Justin >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >> >> Rodger Boots <rlboots2(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >Flow control is probably off or set wrong on computer end. Open up >> control >> >panel, system, hardware, com ports. Selects your com port and port >> >settings. Flow control should be XON/XOFF for software flow control or >> >Hardware for hardware flow control. Use whichever matches the programmer >> >setup. >> > >> >If you're using Hardware and it doesn't work your null modem cable may be >> >wired wrong. >> > >> >Good luck. >> > >> > >> >On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM, JJ <rugd2go(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> >> I tried to connect to my 9010a and laptop using xp and received a buffer >> >> overrun or overflow message on the 9010. Any ideas on what the cause >> might >> >> be? I was using a null cable. >> >> >> >> Justin >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >> >> >> >> Matthew Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Has anyone gotten Fluke FIDE to work in Windows 7? I've always just >> >> >used my old Win XP laptop with a USB/Serial adapter and it works great. >> >> > >> >> >On 4/12/2013 11:13 AM, Theron Troxel wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I found out what I was doing wrong. Didn't have a null modem cable >> >> adapter. Ended up ordering a serial cable adapter, which I knew I >> didn't >> >> want. Will try again with the correct part. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> >> >> To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:07 PM >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> >> >> To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:50 PM >> >> >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> >> >> Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a >> USB-to-RS232 >> >> cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my >> computer >> >> and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. >> >> >> >> >> >> Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it >> >> through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send >> >> the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, >> on >> >> the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Starting process... >> >> >> WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included >> >> >> multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. >> >> >> It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. >> >> >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program >> Files >> >> (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). >> >> >> ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke >> >> FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. >> >> >> Permission denied >> >> >> Batch >> >> >> file processing failed. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> > >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Techtoolslist mailing list >> >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fwd: 7408 vs 74LS08
by Jose Luiz Martins 04 May '13

04 May '13

Hi ! Have you guys experience problems using 74LSXX instead of 74XX in address bus? I'm trying to troubleshoot one Taito Moon Cresta board for months, and could not find the problem. I solve the garbage on the screen changing one 7408 at Data Line A5,A6 and A7 but now I have the screen filled with Zeroes and Ones. I was noticed by a friend that the 2114 is very speed sensitive, but I cant believe the 74LS08 is the guilty. I'm asking you guys because I don't have any good 7408 IC, I'll have to order it from USA and wait about 30 days to arrive. Thanks _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] flippers.com mailing list memberships
by adolfo bustos 01 May '13

01 May '13

techtoolslist(a)flippers.com Re: flippers.com mailing list memberships keep the subscription for adolfo210511(a)att.net _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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FLUKE WORD WIDE DIP ROM FLEX CIRCUIT 40 pin Socket
by Fabrizio Vasile 01 May '13

01 May '13

Hi all, could someone explain what is this?Thanks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLUKE-883673-WORD-WIDE-DIP-ROM-FLEX-CIRCUIT-40-pin-… _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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