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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by JJ 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

I tried the prior and all my settings look good. Anyone have the cable pin outs? I would like to ohm out the cable. Thanks Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Rodger Boots <rlboots2(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Flow control is probably off or set wrong on computer end. Open up control >panel, system, hardware, com ports. Selects your com port and port >settings. Flow control should be XON/XOFF for software flow control or >Hardware for hardware flow control. Use whichever matches the programmer >setup. > >If you're using Hardware and it doesn't work your null modem cable may be >wired wrong. > >Good luck. > > >On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM, JJ <rugd2go(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> I tried to connect to my 9010a and laptop using xp and received a buffer >> overrun or overflow message on the 9010. Any ideas on what the cause might >> be? I was using a null cable. >> >> Justin >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >> >> Matthew Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: >> >> >Has anyone gotten Fluke FIDE to work in Windows 7? I've always just >> >used my old Win XP laptop with a USB/Serial adapter and it works great. >> > >> >On 4/12/2013 11:13 AM, Theron Troxel wrote: >> >> >> >> I found out what I was doing wrong. Didn't have a null modem cable >> adapter. Ended up ordering a serial cable adapter, which I knew I didn't >> want. Will try again with the correct part. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> >> To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:07 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> >> To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:50 PM >> >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a USB-to-RS232 >> cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my computer >> and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. >> >> >> >> Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it >> through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send >> the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, on >> the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: >> >> >> >> >> >> Starting process... >> >> WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included >> >> multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. >> >> It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. >> >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program Files >> (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). >> >> ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke >> FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. >> >> Permission denied >> >> Batch >> >> file processing failed. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Techtoolslist mailing list >> >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by JJ 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

I tried to connect to my 9010a and laptop using xp and received a buffer overrun or overflow message on the 9010. Any ideas on what the cause might be? I was using a null cable. Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Matthew Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: >Has anyone gotten Fluke FIDE to work in Windows 7? I've always just >used my old Win XP laptop with a USB/Serial adapter and it works great. > >On 4/12/2013 11:13 AM, Theron Troxel wrote: >> >> I found out what I was doing wrong. Didn't have a null modem cable adapter. Ended up ordering a serial cable adapter, which I knew I didn't want. Will try again with the correct part. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:50 PM >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a USB-to-RS232 cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my computer and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. >> >> Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, on the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: >> >> >> Starting process... >> WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included >> multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. >> It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). >> ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. >> Permission denied >> Batch >> file processing failed. >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by Theron Troxel 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a USB-to-RS232 cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my computer and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, on the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: Starting process... WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. Permission denied Batch file processing failed. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Long shot but hoping
by David Shoemaker 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

I have a Midway grid board which is in constant reboots after it passes self-test. This uses the Athens board. Crusin' Exotica is also on the Athens board. I picked up an Exotica which is working fine. I did a rom swap Grid -> Crusin and get a mess of rom checksum errors. Digging around a touch I realized that they use an Altera Max EMP7128S at U29 as an address decoder. The Crusin boards appear to have a different memory map than the grid. I was able to rearrange some roms and combine four into two to get all but two roms to pass test. But it looks like there is no way to get the other two roms to come through. The Mame sources for this board imply that is should work but I was probing the chip select line (pin 11) at each of the sockets when the board did it's checksum on the problem roms. One socket triggers for just a moment and then the board fails the rom. The board has a 10 pin connector right next to the Altera chip, I am sure it's a jtag port. The Grid board has a hand written "AB" notation on the part id label which makes me believe they just flashed the board before they installed the roms. Problem is I have 0 experience with Altera parts and I don't have a clue how to try getting the code out (which could very well be protected). I am wondering if anyone here has any ideas on how to pull the code out on Grid and then reprogram the Exotica board. My only other alternative is to remove the chip from the exotica board and then pull the one from the grid and put onto the exotica. Doable if I am lucky. That's a really fine pitch 100 pin part. I tried arcade-service.com who say they work on these but they have been just shy of useless. David PS, oddly enough the crusin chips pass self-test on the grid board. I suspect they loaded both memory maps into the chip and then just select the correct one on boot using some configuration register. But as the grid didn't exist when they did the crusin boards.. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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RE: [Techtoolslist] Tech Tip - Protecting those Fluke POD UUT pins!
by David Shoemaker 09 Apr '13

09 Apr '13

What type of socket do you use? I have been using turned pin sockets. -----Original Message----- From: "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> Sent: ‎4/‎6/‎2013 10:53 AM To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Tech Tip - Protecting those Fluke POD UUT pins! Just corresponding with a fellow about his pod that had some broken pins on the UUT connector end and I told him how I deal with that - I use "Sacrificial" IC sockets on the pins so the IC socket legs can be damaged, but the POD connector is not at risk. Also, if a pin is broken off simply strip the lead close to the UUT connector end and run a short jumper to the sacrificial IC socket. Figured I should share this with you good folks in case the idea hadn't occurred to you... John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Tech Tip - Protecting those Fluke POD UUT pins!
by John Robertson 06 Apr '13

06 Apr '13

Just corresponding with a fellow about his pod that had some broken pins on the UUT connector end and I told him how I deal with that - I use "Sacrificial" IC sockets on the pins so the IC socket legs can be damaged, but the POD connector is not at risk. Also, if a pin is broken off simply strip the lead close to the UUT connector end and run a short jumper to the sacrificial IC socket. Figured I should share this with you good folks in case the idea hadn't occurred to you... John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Pod cables
by JJ 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

I think there is only used cables out there and those are hard to come by as well. Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID David Ryskalczyk <d235j.1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Yeah, I could actually use an 8085 cable... I also got a pod (8085 >type) with both cables cut and would like to fix it up. > >--Dave > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Mar 10, 2013, at 11:39 PM, David Shoemaker <davids(a)oz.net> wrote: > >> All this talk about cables has me wondering. Are there any places to buy new cables? >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by David Shoemaker 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

Fide doesn't work on 64 bit because the underlying tools are 16 bit. -----Original Message----- From: "Theron Troxel" <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> Sent: ‎4/‎1/‎2013 8:27 PM To: "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE Had a chance to look at this a little bit more tonight. I am using Windows 7 x64, and doesn't appear to be working. I can't even get the script to compile. I switched to a little netbook that I have and now the script is compiling and not giving any errors, but won't transfer the data to the fluke. The fluke just displays that it's receiving , but never changes. My netbook is recognizing the cable and matched the settings on both the computer and fluke to match. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ________________________________ From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE The cord was initially com7, but changed it thinking it had to be com1 - com4 to match the FIDE setting. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by Theron Troxel 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

The cord was initially com7, but changed it thinking it had to be com1 - com4 to match the FIDE setting. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] flippers.com mailing list memberships
by adolfo bustos 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

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