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Need help reading some Masked Roms
by Matt Rossiter 05 Jun '04

05 Jun '04

Anyone out there know how to read masked roms with their Data I/O unipak2b? I'm trying to read the two 4k masked proms off of a tailgunner board and make copies of them. But I'm having trouble reading them. First I tried downloading them as 2k roms and combining them. > copy /b tailgunner.P7 + tailgunner.R7 ROM.R7 > copy /b tailgunner.T7 + tailgunner.U7 ROM.U7 Then burned them onto a tms2532 rom. Successful, but didn't work in the game. What am I doing wrong? thanks. Matt If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Fluke 9010A Emulator
by Adam Courchesne 01 Jun '04

01 Jun '04

Just an FYI for all you Fluke fans.... I've been working on a Fluke 9010A emulator for Windows and it's coming along quite nicely. All the core code is writen as well as the code for the vacum display. (Which looks extremely authentic) http://www.onecircuit.com/images/display.gif If you bring up the brightness on your monitor you can see the unused segments. Unit "powers up and passes all self tests" a they say. Short term goal will be to get it fully functional and somehow interface pods through the 25pin printer port. Long term goal will be to utilize a custom USB adapter that will allow both pod and probe support. Should come in handy with the existing FIDE as one can write scripts in there and then simply load them up in the emulator. I'd also find it useful to have a 9010A emulator on my laptop so I can work on boards wherever and whenever the need arises. If anone has basic features that they'd like to see feel free to shoot them my way. -Adam _________________________________________________________________ Learn to simplify your finances and your life in Streamline Your Life from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0405streamline.armx If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Re: Fluke 9010A ROM question
by Adam Courchesne 18 May '04

18 May '04

I guess for not it's safe to assume that perhaps pin 1 of U62 is tied to GND such that ROM U9(J9) = U1 on the piggy back PCB + U18, ROM U19 = U19+U20 and ROM U21 = U21 + U2 on piggy back PCB. ?? :-) -Adam >From: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: Fluke 9010A ROM question >Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:52:36 -0700 > >You need to compare the revision of schematics that you have to the serial >number of your machine. These units evolved over time (not a theory ;-) >...someday someone will post pictures of the various revisions... > >John :-#)# > >>I popped open my Fluke yesterday and noticed that ROMS are located in >>locations J9 (U9) U19 and U21. So looks like the ROM archive on the FTP >>site has everything I need. >> >>Just out of curiosity though... this differs from the schematics and info >>in the service manual in that there should be ROMS at location U18 - U21. >>I'm looking at the schematics now and don't see any jumpers etc that would >>allow you to use, say, ROMs that are twice the size of the original ones >>which is what appears to be the case. Am I missing an EC or something that >>was done to the main PCB at some point in time? Or are my schematics >>dated? >> >>-Adam > >If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: ><Majordomo(a)flippers.com> >with the following command in the body of your email message: >(un)subscribe techtoolslist >or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: >(un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/

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Fluke 9010A ROM question
by Adam Courchesne 18 May '04

18 May '04

I popped open my Fluke yesterday and noticed that ROMS are located in locations J9 (U9) U19 and U21. So looks like the ROM archive on the FTP site has everything I need. Just out of curiosity though... this differs from the schematics and info in the service manual in that there should be ROMS at location U18 - U21. I'm looking at the schematics now and don't see any jumpers etc that would allow you to use, say, ROMs that are twice the size of the original ones which is what appears to be the case. Am I missing an EC or something that was done to the main PCB at some point in time? Or are my schematics dated? -Adam _________________________________________________________________ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Fluke 9100 programming keyboard model number?
by Tom McClintock 14 May '04

14 May '04

Anyone know the model number of the Fluke 9100 *programming* keyboard? TIA, tom If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Fluke 9010A roms
by Adam Courchesne 13 May '04

13 May '04

Are the Fluke9010A roms on the FTP site? And if so... what the urn for the FTP site? :-) -Adam _________________________________________________________________ Getting married? Find tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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How do I read a TI 18S42 with a Data I/O 29b/2b?
by Franklin Bowen 12 May '04

12 May '04

How do I read a TI 18S42 with a Data I/O 29b/2b? I did a search through the device files and found no match. A search on Google found this article: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=leD3a.129288%24vm2.77578%40rwcrnsc54 So can I read this as a AMD 27S29, a device that the 2b supports? A couple unrelated questions: 1) What is the A/C (last) column in the device lists? 2) How do I tell the version number of my 2B? On everything else it's obvious. Is it the last 3 digits of the part number? So 950-0086-011 would mean I have a version 11? Thanks! -- Franklin Bowen (Franklin(a)Bowen.net) http://fmbbowen.com:39353 If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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US power issues...
by Andy Welburn 12 May '04

12 May '04

Hi all.. I have a few queries that might not be specifically on-topic, so I apologise in advance if this seems off-topic, if someone feels they can help and wish to do so off-list then please do, but some of my questions are videogame related, so its sortof on topic :) Basically I have to do a study on converting a UK videogame show to be used in America on tour. The show has already toured most of Europe over the past few years, and the show will now move to America in early 2005, to run for maybe several years traveling across the north American continent :) The show has approximately 200 working videogames, mainly home consoles and computers, Video Arcade Games do feature, but on a small scale, and the likelihood is that I will source the machines while I am over there. Ok, so having imported plenty of machines from the US already, there is a certain problem that crops up all too often, it's the 50/60hz cycle issue. Several things happen in video arcade games when they are imported form the states and used over here. Once the usual voltage has been stepped-down with a transformer, or when the existing transformers have been rewired to accept 240v, that's usually it. However, the fluorescent lights are another matter. The ballast transformers are designed for 60hz power systems, so when they run at 50hz, several things happen : - 1. Nothing... the thing works just fine for years. - 2. You get a sort of 'pulsing' that is hard to see, but its there... - 3. It works fine for 6 months, then one day it just shorts out and blows the main fuse in the house/cabinet etc... time to change it... - 4. It works fine then one day spontaneously combusts, spewing forth acrid smoke, sometimes blowing fuses. - 5. It continues to work fine, and then one day you smell burning... the transformer has gotten so hot that it continues to work, but the heat it has generated has burned the surrounding wooden housing, which itself catches light. The decision from now on is to replace them lock stock and barrel to prevent any of the above happening... Anyway, so, there is a 50/60hz problem.. from my limited research I have found that the difference in duty cycle means the transformer is working 17% faster, harder, hotter, and draws 17% more power etc... My question is, what happens when you turn the tables? The exhibition uses around 350 flourescent tubes installed in game 'pods' and I need to know if I sort the line voltage problem by stepping up, will I encounter the same 50/60 problem? If anyone can help with an answer to that, or has experience of the same, please get in touch.. The second question is about domestic TV sets, we have 150 or so of these too, my question is not about video standards, that is not an issue, my question is, would the different duty cycle stuff up the set if it relied on the duty cycle for timing at all? Is this a known issue? I have yet to get an answer from the manufacturer, usual story, nobody technical enough on hand to answer the question properly. Thanks for your endurance in reading this post :) Any help greatly appreciated. Andy Welburn www.andys-arcade.com If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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RE: RFC
by Chris Toseland 06 May '04

06 May '04

Thanks to everyone who commented and offered up ideas for additional features, all where gratefully received and it's interesting to get varied views on how folks use their test gear. I've made the changes to the IDE to reflect the requests for the hardware to revolve around the CPU It certainly makes more sense to have the memory maps on a per CPU level, I've updated the screenshots page to reflect this if anyone's interested. I've not done anything yet as far as ram bit masks are concerned. I was asked about building in functions similar to those of the Fluke -003 module, I don't have information on this module so if someone has a manual in electronic format I'd be grateful of a copy. Thanks for all the feedback Chris If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Fluke 9100 on Tron hardware
by Chris Loggans 04 May '04

04 May '04

Has anyone successfully used the Fluke system on MCR (Tron) hardware? When I try to get a signature from the ROM's, it comes back different every time. When I try to do a RUN UUT, the game self test runs and reports errors with all of the ROMs and occasionally the RAM. This is all happening on a known working board with the watchdog disabled. If I pull the test pod out and put the CPU back in, everything works fine. Oh, and I've also tried two different Z80 pods, with the same results. Any thoughts? Thanks, -Chris If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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