June 2002 - TechToolsList - listserv.classicarcade.com

Re: Cracking the 9010A ROM signature generator
by Kev 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

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Re: 8086 pod for fluke?
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hey, that would be my cue :) All of the M72, M82, M84 games from Irem use a NEC V20 which is a 8086 with some extra instructions. It's also pin compatible so the 8086 pod is usable with it. Of course, there aren't exactly many of these around :) Chris (M72 = RType, Dragon Breed, XMultiply, + others, M82 = RType II, Pound for Pound, M84 = Major Title) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 8086 pod for fluke? Author: Noel Johnson <nej(a)airmail.net> at Internet Date: 1/17/00 12:09 AM Hello All, I am about to obtain an 8086 pod for a fluke 9010. Did any arcade games use the 8086 or am I going to have to trade this puppy away?? Thanks! Noel

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Re[2]: Fluke T-shooters
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Does anyone know if the scripts for the 9010 work on a 9100a?? It may also be of interest to know that someone (presumably Al Kossow) has scanned and pdf'ed a lot of the fluke manuals and uploaded them to www.spies.com/arcade. There's a fluke directory which has some 9010 scripts and the .exe to compile them, and in the TE directory there are manuals for the 9010,9100 and most of the POD's. (I presume Al wrote the scripts) Unfortunately, the user manual for the 9100 isn't there. Sigh... Chris (I would like a copy of the scipt also :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Fluke T-shooters Author: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> at Internet Date: 1/11/00 8:40 AM I found the Asteroids script, had downloaded it a while ago and it was lurking in the wrong area. Would anyone like a copy? John :-#)#

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RE: Replace the 9010A base with an IBM Parallel port?
by John Robertson 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Does anyone here want to assist by disassembling the Z80 (or 6502 or 680X) code in one of the pods to figure out the command codes? Now that we have an idea of the results, a list of the command codes might make it very easy to continue to the next stage-actually talking to a pod on the parallel port. I think it is actually not going to be that difficult.... The code is on the archive site ftp://ftp.flippers.com/Fluke John :-#)# --------------------------------------------<results if you missed them>------------------------------------------------- More results: Great, when you do a First READ on the pod, you get a RESET to the pod, and a bunch of chatter: READ FE55 = 31: 30 35 REAL LONG PAUSE ... RESET AB 36 38 30 32 20 20 PAUSE FOR (about) TWO CYCLES(2P) 24 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF (P) (P) (P) 00 00 00 00 (P) FF FF FF FE (P) 00 00 08 00 30 (P) 4D 52 20 20 20 20 P P P P 48 41 4C 54 20 20 P P P 0E 00 06 30 00 LONG PAUSE HERE.....PERHAPS 10 TIME UNITS THEN 30 35 55 31 00 Now I'll try to do some more reads...This is exactly the order as entered... Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, high address, low address, data read, Stop) N MP MP MP MP MP ( N means no handshaking, M is MAINSTAT & P is PODSTAT) 4567 FF = 5A 35 45 67 FF 00 89AB FF = 53 35 89 AB FF 00 0001 00 = AB 35 00 01 00 00 Write @ Loc. Data N MP MP MP MP 0101 AA = 01 23 01 AA 00 MP 2055 56 = AA 33 20 55 56 00 0101 43 = 56 33 01 01 43 00 Read... N MP MP MP MP MP 2055 FF = 43 35 20 55 FF 00 F808 FF = 55 35 F8 08 FF 00 F9AB FF = 08 35 F9 AB FF 00 FDEA FC = AB 35 FD EA FC 00 I think I now see the pattern for reads/writes. The first byte is the LAST DATA, note that the timing for that is such that MAINSTAT and PODSTAT have done nothing until the second byte. I suspect the 1st data byte is there for the REPEAT function...so lets try that... Repeat... N MP MP MP FDEA FC = EA 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 OK, for REPEAT the first Byte (again before M or Podstat) is 1st the last data,then the last instruction. Now lets try a write again... Write... N MP MP MP MP MP 0123 45 = 05 33 01 23 45 00 0123 66 = 45 03 66 00 (much shorter for a second write to the same address!) Thus 03 is "Same Address Write" Read... N MP MP MP MP 0124 00 = 66 15 24 00 00 (hmmm looks like "15" is read increment(?) to next byte. let's test... 0125 00 = 24 15 25 00 00 (now lets skip a few...) 012F 00 = 25 15 2F 00 00 (and a few more...) 0138 00 = 2F 15 38 00 00 (lets shift up a little ways...) 0238 FF = 38 25 02 FF 00 (interesting...seems to latch the 38, ok, lets change both a bit) 0339 EF = 02 35 03 39 EF 00 (OK, it caught that, "35" might mean "new address read") I think the pattern that is coming out is something close to this X3 = write, X5 = read, if X = 0 then same address, if X = 1, then same address high byte, if X = 2 then latch low address byte, if X = 3 new address bytes. Yes, this looks right so far... TIMING The very first byte is BEFORE you get any handshaking...then you get MAINSTAT, then shortly after you get PODSTAT which ends just after MAINSTAT ends, then the remaining handshaking has POD end with MAIN. Boy I wish this had time marks... John :-#)# ...:56 AM 05/03/2002 -0800, John Robertson wrote: >>Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, >>high address, low address, data read, Stop) > > 0208 FF = 00 35 02 08 FF 00 > 0505 EF = 99 35 05 05 EF 00 > 1050 FF = 13 35 10 50 FF 00 > FE55 31 = 00 35 FE 55 31 00 > >Got it! the first data byte seems to grab the pods attention, often a 00, >but perhaps (?) not that important, but it certainly looks like a Clean >(no other read action in front) Read is "35" then the address and the >resulting data. It appears that multiple reads change the communication >with the pod in the sense that if you take two reads (different locations) >in a row the command string is different. Stay tuned this evening when I >dig into more reads and test the writes. > >John :-#)# > > >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 (result) >> 0101 FE = 00 21 00 FE 00 >> 0200 EF = 01 35 02 00 EF >> 00(result - a little longer this time...) >> 0300 EF = 00 26 03 EF 00 >> 8000 EF = 02 26 80 EF 00 >> C000 FF = 80 26 C0 FF 00 >> F800 FF = C0 26 F8 FF 00 >> FC00 8E = F8 26 FC 8E 00 >> FC05 8D = FC 16 05 8D 00 >> FCEE EE = 05 16 CC EE 00 >> 0200 EF = CC 35 02 EF 00 (same >> length as others now...) >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 >> >>Now I'll try some writes: >>Write @ Location Data (results) >> 0000 55 = 00 03 55 00 >> 0100 AA = 55 25 01 AA 00 >> 0200 AA = CC 23 02 AA 00 >> 8000 44 = CC 23 80 44 00 >> EF08 11 = 0C 33 EF 08 11 00 >> (longer) >> >>Well, that's all for tonight, I'm getting tired... >> >>John :-#()#

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Micro Concepts Boardwalker 101
by Corey Stup 15 May '03

15 May '03

Does anyone else have one of these units? I've disassembled the software in order to update the unit to a wider range of devices supported. Looking to see if anyone has any other version of firmware in their unit. Mine has the base software as V2.50, 03/19/87. Library is "STD" V1.6 2/18/87.

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RAM tester?
by Joe Magiera 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

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Death of Spies.com/arcade
by Corey Stup 09 Jul '02

09 Jul '02

Looks like Al took the site down. Damon has a mirror, at www.stormaster.com/Spies/arcade

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Continuing the sage on 9100 hard drive copying...and random bits...
by John Robertson 28 Jun '02

28 Jun '02

I'm working on my 9100 to get a mirror or otherwise for the hard drive. I've gone around the 'web looking for info on the controller (WD1002S-SHD) and I have gotten two possible interface results. It is either SCSI-1 or SASI. Certainly none of my SCSI controllers find the card - even my old Future Domain on a DOS 6.22 system can't find the drive (it still works). I've sent a note to Western Digital to see if they have anything buried in a drawer on this controller that might help. The two spec sheets I've found (google) show not much beyond the conflict between it being SCSI or SASI. Drat. I've not had any luck with finding it as an MFM drive either. I found an old XT MFM controller (they can be moved about in memory) but without a working MFM drive to check I don't know if the problem is in the card or the drive configuration. There aren't many working MFM drives left you know!!! Oh, well, enough for tonight on that project, now to breadboard my 68000 to 6800 test cable (testing it on an old Heathkit computer trainer). Maybe more news tonight on that project. Is anyone working on the Parallel project at this time? John :-#)#

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8051 pod manual
by John Robertson 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Does anyone have this manual that they could scan for sharing? This pod looks like a winner. I think with the tests it can perform it might make a good base for a universal pod. It has a RAM test that is run at system speed, ROM Checksum(!) test that can identify stuck bits in the ROM(!) and a few others that would be great to use according to the docs I just got on in describing it's tests. The 68000 (tests as a 68010 as well by the way) pod also does the same tests, perhaps that one is more common, but as it has a larger plug I thought it would be more unwieldy to make adapter cards. John :-#)#

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Fluke manuals...
by John Robertson 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Does anyone that has sent me scanned material for the Techtools list have a problem if they are sent to a more public location? Chuck (mayor(a)cityofberwyn.com) has asked Al for permission to host the spies archive and appears to have his permission. Has anyone ever contacted Fluke to find out their position on posting of ancient material on public web sites? I guess we should get clearance first... John :-#)#

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