RE: Replace the 9010A base with an IBM Parallel port?
Does anyone here want to assist by disassembling the Z80 (or 6502 or 680X) code in one of the pods to figure out the command codes? Now that we have an idea of the results, a list of the command codes might make it very easy to continue to the next stage-actually talking to a pod on the parallel port. I think it is actually not going to be that difficult.... The code is on the archive site ftp://ftp.flippers.com/Fluke John :-#)# --------------------------------------------<results if you missed them>------------------------------------------------- More results: Great, when you do a First READ on the pod, you get a RESET to the pod, and a bunch of chatter: READ FE55 = 31: 30 35 REAL LONG PAUSE ... RESET AB 36 38 30 32 20 20 PAUSE FOR (about) TWO CYCLES(2P) 24 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF (P) (P) (P) 00 00 00 00 (P) FF FF FF FE (P) 00 00 08 00 30 (P) 4D 52 20 20 20 20 P P P P 48 41 4C 54 20 20 P P P 0E 00 06 30 00 LONG PAUSE HERE.....PERHAPS 10 TIME UNITS THEN 30 35 55 31 00 Now I'll try to do some more reads...This is exactly the order as entered... Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, high address, low address, data read, Stop) N MP MP MP MP MP ( N means no handshaking, M is MAINSTAT & P is PODSTAT) 4567 FF = 5A 35 45 67 FF 00 89AB FF = 53 35 89 AB FF 00 0001 00 = AB 35 00 01 00 00 Write @ Loc. Data N MP MP MP MP 0101 AA = 01 23 01 AA 00 MP 2055 56 = AA 33 20 55 56 00 0101 43 = 56 33 01 01 43 00 Read... N MP MP MP MP MP 2055 FF = 43 35 20 55 FF 00 F808 FF = 55 35 F8 08 FF 00 F9AB FF = 08 35 F9 AB FF 00 FDEA FC = AB 35 FD EA FC 00 I think I now see the pattern for reads/writes. The first byte is the LAST DATA, note that the timing for that is such that MAINSTAT and PODSTAT have done nothing until the second byte. I suspect the 1st data byte is there for the REPEAT function...so lets try that... Repeat... N MP MP MP FDEA FC = EA 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 OK, for REPEAT the first Byte (again before M or Podstat) is 1st the last data,then the last instruction. Now lets try a write again... Write... N MP MP MP MP MP 0123 45 = 05 33 01 23 45 00 0123 66 = 45 03 66 00 (much shorter for a second write to the same address!) Thus 03 is "Same Address Write" Read... N MP MP MP MP 0124 00 = 66 15 24 00 00 (hmmm looks like "15" is read increment(?) to next byte. let's test... 0125 00 = 24 15 25 00 00 (now lets skip a few...) 012F 00 = 25 15 2F 00 00 (and a few more...) 0138 00 = 2F 15 38 00 00 (lets shift up a little ways...) 0238 FF = 38 25 02 FF 00 (interesting...seems to latch the 38, ok, lets change both a bit) 0339 EF = 02 35 03 39 EF 00 (OK, it caught that, "35" might mean "new address read") I think the pattern that is coming out is something close to this X3 = write, X5 = read, if X = 0 then same address, if X = 1, then same address high byte, if X = 2 then latch low address byte, if X = 3 new address bytes. Yes, this looks right so far... TIMING The very first byte is BEFORE you get any handshaking...then you get MAINSTAT, then shortly after you get PODSTAT which ends just after MAINSTAT ends, then the remaining handshaking has POD end with MAIN. Boy I wish this had time marks... John :-#)# ...:56 AM 05/03/2002 -0800, John Robertson wrote:
Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, high address, low address, data read, Stop)
0208 FF = 00 35 02 08 FF 00 0505 EF = 99 35 05 05 EF 00 1050 FF = 13 35 10 50 FF 00 FE55 31 = 00 35 FE 55 31 00
Got it! the first data byte seems to grab the pods attention, often a 00, but perhaps (?) not that important, but it certainly looks like a Clean (no other read action in front) Read is "35" then the address and the resulting data. It appears that multiple reads change the communication with the pod in the sense that if you take two reads (different locations) in a row the command string is different. Stay tuned this evening when I dig into more reads and test the writes.
John :-#)#
0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 (result) 0101 FE = 00 21 00 FE 00 0200 EF = 01 35 02 00 EF 00(result - a little longer this time...) 0300 EF = 00 26 03 EF 00 8000 EF = 02 26 80 EF 00 C000 FF = 80 26 C0 FF 00 F800 FF = C0 26 F8 FF 00 FC00 8E = F8 26 FC 8E 00 FC05 8D = FC 16 05 8D 00 FCEE EE = 05 16 CC EE 00 0200 EF = CC 35 02 EF 00 (same length as others now...) 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00
Now I'll try some writes: Write @ Location Data (results) 0000 55 = 00 03 55 00 0100 AA = 55 25 01 AA 00 0200 AA = CC 23 02 AA 00 8000 44 = CC 23 80 44 00 EF08 11 = 0C 33 EF 08 11 00 (longer)
Well, that's all for tonight, I'm getting tired...
John :-#()#
I just recieved a 6802/6808 pod. I thought I saw the same pod pictured with a red rocker switch on it. Is there multiple versions of this pod? Thanks, Kev
I have several of those pods, none of them have the switch. I think you might have been looking at the 6809 or one of the 80XX pods. These can use different CPU's and you change the configuration of the pod to match the CPU. I think it's the 8085 pod in particular... John :-#)# At 11:34 AM 07/03/2002 -0500, Kev wrote:
I just recieved a 6802/6808 pod.
I thought I saw the same pod pictured with a red rocker switch on it.
Is there multiple versions of this pod?
Thanks, Kev
Has anyone used the 9010A to work on these? I've started writing scripts but I've got a few issues to resolve. Checksums would be a great help, especially for Turkey Shoot. Thanks, Kev
I just found my Turkey Shoot MPU. do you still need the checksums? I have no idea if it is good... John :-#)#
Has anyone used the 9010A to work on these?
I've started writing scripts but I've got a few issues to resolve.
Checksums would be a great help, especially for Turkey Shoot.
Thanks, Kev
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Has anyone written PIA scripts? Specifically I'm looking for 6821 stuff but anything would be appreciated. John has pointed out 6520 scripts & I've got data sheets in hand but I thought I'd check 1 more time before I roll my own. Thanks, Kev
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