Does anyone that has sent me scanned material for the Techtools list have a problem if they are sent to a more public location? Chuck (mayor@cityofberwyn.com) has asked Al for permission to host the spies archive and appears to have his permission. Has anyone ever contacted Fluke to find out their position on posting of ancient material on public web sites? I guess we should get clearance first... John :-#)#
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:45:37 -0700, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
Does anyone that has sent me scanned material for the Techtools list have a problem if they are sent to a more public location? Chuck (mayor@cityofberwyn.com) has asked Al for permission to host the spies archive and appears to have his permission.
Has anyone ever contacted Fluke to find out their position on posting of ancient material on public web sites? I guess we should get clearance first...
I think you might be playing with a hornet's nest here. If you place the manuals on a website, and they either don't get the attention of Fluke, or Fluke knows they're there but considers it pretty harmless, then no problems. If Fluke sees the manuals and doesn't like them there, they will ask Chuck to remove them, no problem. If you force Fluke to respond with permission to publish their manuals on a website, there's not a corporate lawyer in the country that will give you that permission. If you look at it from Fluke's point of view, giving you permission to scan their copyright material will open up a big can of worms for them. (What constitutes ancient manuals? What manual are they still selling/making money on. What Fluke employee will they pay to do this research? Etc.) It's easiest, and cheapest for them to just say no, and give it no more thoughts. Just like it's easiest and cheapest for them to come across a website of ancient manuals and think that they aren't hurting anyone, and give it little thought. But once permission is denied, there's no chance of publishing these manuals without a possible lawsuit. I would go with a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy on this one. ;-) -Zonn
Has anyone ever contacted Fluke to find out their position on posting of ancient material on public web sites? I guess we should get clearance first...
I'm working on this as we speak. I would ask that we don't put any more documentation into "public domain" areas yet & perhaps keep the ftp limited. I do have an ex employee from Fluke that actually wrote some of the documentation & he is in contact with people inside of Fluke propositioning them with the idea of releasing the manuals & more importantly the software for someone to host as the "official Fluke 9010/9100 obsolete manuals". It may be helpful if I can collect a head count here of all the Fluke owners/ users & what equipment they have to help establish the idea that there is a need & desire for this support. Of course all this is subject to a big no from Fluke but at this point I don't know how else we can hope to get documentation & especially software (to format & initilize HDDs etc...) Thanks, Kev
Just as a note on more Fluke manuals, I just got in the documentation for the 9010A Language Compiler...and the later errata pages. Some of this we have, but some we don't... I'll scan it later this summer...when I get time, or if my ADF shows up (and works!) then it might be a lot sooner. John :-#)# At 03:34 PM 26/06/2002 -0400, Kev wrote:
Has anyone ever contacted Fluke to find out their position on posting of ancient material on public web sites? I guess we should get clearance first...
I'm working on this as we speak.
I would ask that we don't put any more documentation into "public domain" areas yet & perhaps keep the ftp limited.
I do have an ex employee from Fluke that actually wrote some of the documentation & he is in contact with people inside of Fluke propositioning them with the idea of releasing the manuals & more importantly the software for someone to host as the "official Fluke 9010/9100 obsolete manuals".
It may be helpful if I can collect a head count here of all the Fluke owners/ users & what equipment they have to help establish the idea that there is a need & desire for this support.
Of course all this is subject to a big no from Fluke but at this point I don't know how else we can hope to get documentation & especially software (to format & initilize HDDs etc...)
Thanks, Kev
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