I second that. I have a 9010a with the clock module installed and a pod that John lent me. I'd love to know how to use it. Plus I have the tape binaries (I think). I just don't know how to use the darn thing. Matt _____________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 7 May 2002, Kev wrote:

Philip,

Could you scan or make copies available for scanning of the info you have? I'm not aware of it being available on the ftp or spies.

Thanks, Kev mowerman@erols.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Philip Mayor To: TechToolsList@flippers.com Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Fluke clock module.

It was known as the asynchronous signature probe option and consisted of a special pcb installed in 9010 mainframe with an extra d-sub connector on the front, the actual clock module, and a set of special operating programs on a tape. There are five probes coming from the clock module, they are: start, stop, clock, enable and ground.

Philip: I have original fluke info on this option if you need it.

Thanks, Phil.

I opened my Fluke Programmer's keyboard for the 9100A this evening. I'll have you guys know I just voided my warranty doing so! (had to break a seal...) Anyway, it has a few interesting things. The board is denoted with a patent: 4,420,744. The main controller has the following markings on it: Z (appears to be the Zilog logo) SR0131 2-8756-819 8614

Corey, I'll take a guess that you are correct it is a Zilog, Judging by the info on this page.... http://govschl.ndsu.nodak.edu/~achapwes/PICmicro/keyboard/atkeyboard.html I belive the chip is a 8614 Keyboard Encoder. Now can we copy it? I'm looking at .... www.zilog.com/docs/pc/z8602_ap.pdf now Thanks, Kev

I opened my Fluke Programmer's keyboard for the 9100A this evening. I'll have you guys know I just voided my warranty doing so! (had to break a seal...)

Anyway, it has a few interesting things. The board is denoted with a patent: 4,420,744. The main controller has the following markings on it: Z (appears to be the Zilog logo) SR0131 2-8756-819 8614

The main controller is soldered onto the board. I'm not going to take a chance ruining it to make a copy.

I can understand that.

I will remove the board and trace down what actual chip it is. The crystal does not appear to go to the same pins as a 8048.

I'm confident it is a Zilog controller. I cann't find a datasheet on the 8614 but a replacement/upgrade http://www.zilog.com/docs/pc/z86e23_ds.pdf That is compatible has a security mode that prevents reading the onboard ROM. Otherwise it is configured to read as a standard 2764 EPROM. Now if that is true of the 8614 & you had a 40 pin dip clip & a ROM download program for your 9100...... Thanks, Kev

How would I identify a 9100 Keyboard if one were to appear? Is there a model number or some other readily identifiable markings? I assume that a 1720 controller or other Fluke items don't use compatable keyboards? Thanks, Kev

And remember, an AT keyboard is nowhere near 1200 baud. And the AT keyboard not only tells you when a key is pressed, it also tells you when it is released. It's starting to sound like the 9100 keyboard just sends simple text as it's typed. If that is what it is REALLY doing this should be very simple. (Uh, what are we trying to do again?) Kev wrote:

Browsing thru the 9100 service manual.

The 9100 Keyboard is TTL level Serial ASCII @ 1200 BAUD

1 Start Bit 8 Data Bits (LSB->MSB) 2 STOP BITS (AT Keyboards do 1/8/1parity/1stop)

RESET is sent from the CPU to the Keyboard.

Does a RESET cause a keyboard response?

Thanks, Kev

As for a potentially nice Serial interface I'm experimenting with Zterm from: http://www.coolstf.com/ looks nice and is very configurable... Do you have any idea of the data stream the keyboard needs? You need a start bit? I thought most serial communications used a single start bit when in 7 bit mode. John :-#)# At 01:56 PM 09/05/2002 -0400, Kev wrote:

OBJECTIVE: Replace missing 9100 Programmer Keyboard.

Unfortunately Hyperterminal doesn't have a start bit otherwise I could try the theory....

Awful convoluted to use a PC in terminal mode just for a keyboard for the 9100 but I'll take it at the moment!

Thanks, Kev

...

And remember, an AT keyboard is nowhere near 1200 baud. And the AT keyboard not only tells you when a key is pressed, it also tells you when it is released.

It's starting to sound like the 9100 keyboard just sends simple text as it's typed. If that is what it is REALLY doing this should be very simple. (Uh, what are we trying to do again?)

All you can do is to make an adapter for the CPU edge connector, I believe that the one on Burgertime is the same as others that Bally used. You would need a card edge connector wired to a 40pin ribbon cable with a 40 pin dip plug/socket for the pod to connect to. I am going to make one up for the Z80's as used in Pacman and see how it works when I get better. John :-#)# At 08:44 AM 15/05/2002 -0400, Kev wrote:

Has anyone developed a way to deal with Security CPUs/ Non Standard CPUs on boards when using a Fluke Microprocessor tester?

Burgertime is my current challenge.

Crazy climber also comes to mind.

Any & all suggestions appreciated.

Thanks, Kev

Okay, my 9100 keyboard showed up today but much to my suprise it is different from the one commonly displayed in the manuals. It follows the common layout of most modern keyboards yet the keys are marked for the 9100 functions. Anyone's guess if this is a different keyboard chip? This would be the chip to copy if we can. Thanks, Kev

John Robertson wrote:

What ever happened to this programmers keyboard? Did you try reading the CPU? Can you read the CPU?

There are those of us with that facility if you want to send it out...I'm sure there are folks nearer then me that can do it, but my Xeltek can read most of the 40 pin 80XX micros with ROM on board

Remind me again why we need to reuse the code in the keyboard itself? The service manual documents that the data format from the keyboard is just 7 bit ascii at 1200 baud. Why not just use a terminal? I could loan my keyboard to someone if they want. I won't be needing it anytime soon anyway. -- -/!\- -/!\- -/!\- http://www.stup.net/corey

Cool, this is good info, sounds like I could hook up my old 1200baud terminal or PC via it's serial port to handle this. Once I get my back-up SCSI drive back I shall hook up the LA to the Keyboard output and see what I can figure out. But I still need to figure out my ML4100 RS-232 port... John :-#)# At 01:23 PM 09/05/2002 -0400, Kev wrote:

Browsing thru the 9100 service manual.

The 9100 Keyboard is TTL level Serial ASCII @ 1200 BAUD

1 Start Bit 8 Data Bits (LSB->MSB) 2 STOP BITS (AT Keyboards do 1/8/1parity/1stop)

RESET is sent from the CPU to the Keyboard.

Does a RESET cause a keyboard response?

Thanks, Kev

Hi Kev, Just moved the uploads of yours, was the earlier Intro defective? I can't open it, plus it was only 24K in size. I've deleted it, was it just an earlier version of the 9010training manual you also uploaded... John :-#)#