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FTP site...
by John Robertson 08 Dec '15

08 Dec '15

It has come to my attention (thanks Tony!) that I haven't kept the FTP site up to date with files I've found. So I am just doing that now. If you haven't visited it in a while I've uploaded about fifty or so files for various manufacturers...Fluke, Data I/O, and others. If someone has a simple way to do a links page for FTP files I'd like to set that up. Suggestions appreciated to make the FTP file section easier to use! John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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9100 replacement screen?
by Tony Jones 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

My 9100FT and 9105FT arrived today. Unfortunately the screen on the 9105FT was totally shattered ;-( They both seemed well packaged and I would have thought the keyboard would provide decent protection. Does anyone know if it's a standard part (for the period) or somethinv custom? I thought I read something about replacements but I think that may have been for 9010. Sure looks like a fun desoldering project :-) 9100FT isn't working, passes self test but "Disk Access" light stays pinned on. Only other oddity is that there seems to be a scsi card in the 9105FT. I wasn't expecting this, looks like the card also drives the IEEE488. Tony _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Heathkit ET-3400 trainer kit on eBay
by John Robertson 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

Not mine. I already have two of these 6800 and 6502, but not the instructions, breadbox side, nor the tapes - and I wouldn't have the time in any case to play with it. Lots of goodies! http://www.ebay.com/itm/311492096792 Nice bit of history, and if you live near the seller (Oakland, CA) you can save yourself $80 in shipping! John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9105
by Tony Jones 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

>From reading the manuals, the 9105 has two floppies, no hard drive and is non-programmable. being designed to run programs developed on the 9100. Is the lack of programmability just due to the missing HDD and perhaps different software load? I looked at the service manual hoping to find out if the SCSI interface is a card or on the mainboard but it didn't say. I guess I'm curious if it's possible to convert a 9105 to a 9100. This said, I'm guessing the 9105 generally did not come with a graphics card? Related question; what from a 9105 is useful - from a spare parts perspective - for a 9100. Thanks Tony _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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9100 probe
by Tony Jones 15 Nov '15

15 Nov '15

Does anyone have a picture of this? What is the part#? Is it the same as the 9010 probe that is supposedly rarer than hens teeth? I couldn't find anything poking around ftp site. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Beeprog device programmer
by Tony Jones 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Hi. I've been offered one of these (BK 866 rebrand version) for $200. Curious if it's a good deal? Not really any history on eBay other than a 866B version that didn't sell for $450. . It's 7 years old and superceded twice by the BeeProg+/866B and Beeprog-2c/866C. The original is still supported by the software. USB supports Windows 7 so it'll work with the compact laptop I have. It will do a lot of old PROMS but not the Intersil IM56xx. Needs an adapter to do 2708/TMS2716 which is another $100 or so. Curious if anyone has any experience. Asked on EEVblog but no real feedback other than it sounds like Elnac is doing some iffy things with adapters for the newer +/2c versions. Cheers Tony http://www.elnec.com/products/device-programmers/beeprog/ http://www.bkprecision.com/products/discontinued/866-universal-device-progr… _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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8T28 Data buffers can mask RAM test faults...
by John Robertson 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

I was servicing a Williams System 4 pinball MPU the otehr day and while my 6800 pod said there was a Bit 1 problem with the Long RAM test, it turned out that there was no problem with the Data 1 line. However I did have a small solder bridge between D3 & D4 which I only found by using the Williams test fixture BUS test module where it showed that D3 & D4 (buffered) where operating together. So, something to watch out for - buffered Data lines may not show up on the pod tests if there are shorts or other problems. At least with the 8T28 bi-directional buffer! John :-#(# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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WTB Z80 pod for Fluke 9010A
by Les Benito 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

I'm looking for a Z80 pod for my Fluke 9010A. Does anyone have a spare they are willing to sell or know of where I can get one? Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Les -- Les Benito _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Techtoolslist Digest, Vol 131, Issue 4
by Sprout 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Thanks for the detailed write-up. I also would like to see pictures. I’ve already modded my unit with a USB interface that’s tied into the RS-232 output, yet doesn’t impact the ability to continue to use the RS-232 output if desired. If this is going to disable the RS-232 output altogether, that would also mean I’d lose my USB functionality unfortunately. If we had a readily available aftermarket/replacement serial board (there’s certainly demand for this) that had this functionality integrated into it, I’d definitely be interested in picking up a couple. Brent > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:42:04 -0500 (CDT) > From: Brad Gass <bradg(a)digitalplains.net> > To: jrr(a)flippers.com, Technical Tools Mail List > <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> > Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Wireless Enabled Fluke 9010A, Anyone? > Message-ID: > <305015421.4080347.1443645724876.JavaMail.zimbra(a)digitalplains.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > John and all - I can add a lot more detail now, actually. But, more pictures and PCB drawings will take me a little longer to package up, I'm a bit busy at this point in the fall! But, it's actually pretty simple to accomplish really... > > This is a Wi-Fi to serial bridge that works under Windows 7, and presumably Windows XP (although haven't tested). I've not tested any newer version of Windows, but would probably setup and run a Windows 7 or XP VM to ensure it still worked on newer OS'es when that time comes. > > The end result is a modified Lantronix xPico Wi-Fi Arduino shield on a PCB carrier board that is piggybacked onto the factory Fluke RS232 interface. Slightly downsized picture attached (sorry, John). > > I initially tried to accomplish this using a WizNet WizFi250H module - mostly because it was a formfactor I could prototype a PCB with. I was familiar with the Lantronix products, and looked at the xPico options (essentially module versions of their device servers - which work fine with the Fluke), but the high density Hirose mezzanine connector was a concern (rightly so actually). > > Well, after a couple routed prototype PCB's using the WizNet module, struggles with their software, and compatibility issues with my shop WiFi (Ubiquiti UAP), I gave up and started looking at Lantronix again. The Lantronix solution was a little more expensive, but at this point I wanted something that "just worked". I also wanted an all internal solution, I didn't want to have to deal with the external device server, cable, and power cube - and simply be able to pick up the Fluke and go to whatever bench I needed it at. > > The Lantronix xPico modules are only available as an SMT module, or a packaged module with the Hirose mezzanine connector. I couldn't be certain I could actually solder the SMT module properly using my home equipment, so I opted to look at the connectorized module. But, I sourced an Arduino xPico shield kit first to be sure it was going to work in the application - and it did. > > On closer inspection, the shield PCB was a size that would work inside the Fluke, and not need a ton of extra effort to support - in fact, it was a drop-in electrically, all the needed peripheral components were already there. It became mostly an exercise in mechanical design and packaging. > > I removed the factory antenna, the Arduino headers, then designed an adapter PCB that sits between the shield and the Fluke interface board routing power, ground, transmit, and receive between the two. I also designed a small "shelf" board that is attached to the shield PCB using vacated header pin locations, holding a 2.4GHz patch antenna. > > Warning to DIY'ers - I strongly suggest not de-mating the xPico module from the shield PCB. The Hirose connector is incredibly fragile and fussy to align, and even Lantronix (or, their CM) has had difficulty getting everything lined up and the stiff plastic retainer clip attached. When disassembled, the Hirose connector on my test shield fell apart (both shield and module sides) and was damaged beyond use. The connector was visibly misaligned on the shield PCB, and appeared to have been forced together during assembly. The shield PCB pictured was the second shield unit, and was de-mated (still damaged, but useable), and used without the retainer clip. I secured it to the shield PCB with a little epoxy instead. > > On my second retrofit (not pictured), I did not de-mate the module, instead using a hot knife to cut the retainer clip plastic over the antenna connector in order to swap in the patch antenna. Afterward, I dabbed a little RTV from the clip to the module on either side to keep things held in place. > > On the Fluke interface board side, the two optocouplers that provide the galvanic serial port isolation were removed, and the shield/adapter PCB stack attached to the Fluke interface board where the opto's were. I also removed the power isolation transformer that was no longer needed, to eliminate any unnecessary switching RF noise - that wouldn't be strictly necessary, only improving the RF environment a bit. > > Done - power is supplied by the Fluke, everything is internal, and it works exactly like a wired connection to FIDE once configured. > > I've been using the 64-bit FIDE workaround from William Stillwell (thank you!) with this setup, and although I haven't put a lot of time in at the bench, no problems so far when using it. I will add that you need to be sure that the COM Port Redirector software is configured to use a port between 1 and 4 for FIDE to work (or at least I did). I didn't investigate much further, but it appears that FIDE may expect to find the Fluke only in that range of COM ports. > > > --Brad > > > From: "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> > To: "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 2:34:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Wireless Enabled Fluke 9010A, Anyone? > > On 09/30/2015 12:17 PM, Brad Gass wrote: >> Is anyone interested in (internally) wireless enabling their Fluke 9010A for communication with FIDE? It requires the factory Fluke RS232 interface, and will disable the use of the wired DB25 (although it is a reversible modification if you ever wanted to). >> >> If there is some interest, in the coming weeks I can put together some details on how I made the modifications to my two 9010A's. It does take a little time and some soldering, but makes for a tidy, self contained setup - I'm almost always glad to eliminate some copper spaghetti from the bench when I can. With enough interest, I may consider running some of the adapter PCB's I designed for myself and offer to others who are interested. >> >> --Brad >> _______________________________________________ > > Hi Brad, > > I for one am interested! This may also work for the 9100!! > > Also, you may want to get together with Piero Andreini and have him add > it to his USB board... see postings "Fluke 9010A - RS-232 & USB > interface!!" from 2014 > > John :-#)# > > -- > How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Wireless Enabled Fluke 9010A, Anyone?
by JJ 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Let's see some pictures. Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Theron Troxel via Techtoolslist <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Date: 09/30/2015 12:52 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Cc: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Wireless Enabled Fluke 9010A, Anyone? I'm with the others on this and think it sounds great, too. On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 2:51 PM, Mike Coates <mike(a)the-coates.com> wrote: sounds interesting ... On 30/09/2015 20:17, Brad Gass wrote: > Is anyone interested in (internally) wireless enabling their Fluke 9010A for communication with FIDE? It requires the factory Fluke RS232 interface, and will disable the use of the wired DB25 (although it is a reversible modification if you ever wanted to). > > If there is some interest, in the coming weeks I can put together some details on how I made the modifications to my two 9010A's. It does take a little time and some soldering, but makes for a tidy, self contained setup - I'm almost always glad to eliminate some copper spaghetti from the bench when I can. With enough interest, I may consider running some of the adapter PCB's I designed for myself and offer to others who are interested. > > --Brad > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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