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Fluke 9000A mystery adapter (for me at least ;-)
by John Robertson 20 Feb '18

20 Feb '18

I have a pod module here called "Z8 I/F ADAPTER" Fluke #9000-200/AB. It has no cable to the base, just a 40 pin CPU cable. Inside is a couple of RAM chips, and some Fluke hybrid interface ICs. Any guesses? John :-#)#

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Re: Cracking the 9010A ROM signature generator
by Kev 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

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Re: 8086 pod for fluke?
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hey, that would be my cue :) All of the M72, M82, M84 games from Irem use a NEC V20 which is a 8086 with some extra instructions. It's also pin compatible so the 8086 pod is usable with it. Of course, there aren't exactly many of these around :) Chris (M72 = RType, Dragon Breed, XMultiply, + others, M82 = RType II, Pound for Pound, M84 = Major Title) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 8086 pod for fluke? Author: Noel Johnson <nej(a)airmail.net> at Internet Date: 1/17/00 12:09 AM Hello All, I am about to obtain an 8086 pod for a fluke 9010. Did any arcade games use the 8086 or am I going to have to trade this puppy away?? Thanks! Noel

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Re[2]: Fluke T-shooters
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Does anyone know if the scripts for the 9010 work on a 9100a?? It may also be of interest to know that someone (presumably Al Kossow) has scanned and pdf'ed a lot of the fluke manuals and uploaded them to www.spies.com/arcade. There's a fluke directory which has some 9010 scripts and the .exe to compile them, and in the TE directory there are manuals for the 9010,9100 and most of the POD's. (I presume Al wrote the scripts) Unfortunately, the user manual for the 9100 isn't there. Sigh... Chris (I would like a copy of the scipt also :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Fluke T-shooters Author: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> at Internet Date: 1/11/00 8:40 AM I found the Asteroids script, had downloaded it a while ago and it was lurking in the wrong area. Would anyone like a copy? John :-#)#

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RE: Replace the 9010A base with an IBM Parallel port?
by John Robertson 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Does anyone here want to assist by disassembling the Z80 (or 6502 or 680X) code in one of the pods to figure out the command codes? Now that we have an idea of the results, a list of the command codes might make it very easy to continue to the next stage-actually talking to a pod on the parallel port. I think it is actually not going to be that difficult.... The code is on the archive site ftp://ftp.flippers.com/Fluke John :-#)# --------------------------------------------<results if you missed them>------------------------------------------------- More results: Great, when you do a First READ on the pod, you get a RESET to the pod, and a bunch of chatter: READ FE55 = 31: 30 35 REAL LONG PAUSE ... RESET AB 36 38 30 32 20 20 PAUSE FOR (about) TWO CYCLES(2P) 24 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF (P) (P) (P) 00 00 00 00 (P) FF FF FF FE (P) 00 00 08 00 30 (P) 4D 52 20 20 20 20 P P P P 48 41 4C 54 20 20 P P P 0E 00 06 30 00 LONG PAUSE HERE.....PERHAPS 10 TIME UNITS THEN 30 35 55 31 00 Now I'll try to do some more reads...This is exactly the order as entered... Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, high address, low address, data read, Stop) N MP MP MP MP MP ( N means no handshaking, M is MAINSTAT & P is PODSTAT) 4567 FF = 5A 35 45 67 FF 00 89AB FF = 53 35 89 AB FF 00 0001 00 = AB 35 00 01 00 00 Write @ Loc. Data N MP MP MP MP 0101 AA = 01 23 01 AA 00 MP 2055 56 = AA 33 20 55 56 00 0101 43 = 56 33 01 01 43 00 Read... N MP MP MP MP MP 2055 FF = 43 35 20 55 FF 00 F808 FF = 55 35 F8 08 FF 00 F9AB FF = 08 35 F9 AB FF 00 FDEA FC = AB 35 FD EA FC 00 I think I now see the pattern for reads/writes. The first byte is the LAST DATA, note that the timing for that is such that MAINSTAT and PODSTAT have done nothing until the second byte. I suspect the 1st data byte is there for the REPEAT function...so lets try that... Repeat... N MP MP MP FDEA FC = EA 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 OK, for REPEAT the first Byte (again before M or Podstat) is 1st the last data,then the last instruction. Now lets try a write again... Write... N MP MP MP MP MP 0123 45 = 05 33 01 23 45 00 0123 66 = 45 03 66 00 (much shorter for a second write to the same address!) Thus 03 is "Same Address Write" Read... N MP MP MP MP 0124 00 = 66 15 24 00 00 (hmmm looks like "15" is read increment(?) to next byte. let's test... 0125 00 = 24 15 25 00 00 (now lets skip a few...) 012F 00 = 25 15 2F 00 00 (and a few more...) 0138 00 = 2F 15 38 00 00 (lets shift up a little ways...) 0238 FF = 38 25 02 FF 00 (interesting...seems to latch the 38, ok, lets change both a bit) 0339 EF = 02 35 03 39 EF 00 (OK, it caught that, "35" might mean "new address read") I think the pattern that is coming out is something close to this X3 = write, X5 = read, if X = 0 then same address, if X = 1, then same address high byte, if X = 2 then latch low address byte, if X = 3 new address bytes. Yes, this looks right so far... TIMING The very first byte is BEFORE you get any handshaking...then you get MAINSTAT, then shortly after you get PODSTAT which ends just after MAINSTAT ends, then the remaining handshaking has POD end with MAIN. Boy I wish this had time marks... John :-#)# ...:56 AM 05/03/2002 -0800, John Robertson wrote: >>Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, >>high address, low address, data read, Stop) > > 0208 FF = 00 35 02 08 FF 00 > 0505 EF = 99 35 05 05 EF 00 > 1050 FF = 13 35 10 50 FF 00 > FE55 31 = 00 35 FE 55 31 00 > >Got it! the first data byte seems to grab the pods attention, often a 00, >but perhaps (?) not that important, but it certainly looks like a Clean >(no other read action in front) Read is "35" then the address and the >resulting data. It appears that multiple reads change the communication >with the pod in the sense that if you take two reads (different locations) >in a row the command string is different. Stay tuned this evening when I >dig into more reads and test the writes. > >John :-#)# > > >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 (result) >> 0101 FE = 00 21 00 FE 00 >> 0200 EF = 01 35 02 00 EF >> 00(result - a little longer this time...) >> 0300 EF = 00 26 03 EF 00 >> 8000 EF = 02 26 80 EF 00 >> C000 FF = 80 26 C0 FF 00 >> F800 FF = C0 26 F8 FF 00 >> FC00 8E = F8 26 FC 8E 00 >> FC05 8D = FC 16 05 8D 00 >> FCEE EE = 05 16 CC EE 00 >> 0200 EF = CC 35 02 EF 00 (same >> length as others now...) >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 >> >>Now I'll try some writes: >>Write @ Location Data (results) >> 0000 55 = 00 03 55 00 >> 0100 AA = 55 25 01 AA 00 >> 0200 AA = CC 23 02 AA 00 >> 8000 44 = CC 23 80 44 00 >> EF08 11 = 0C 33 EF 08 11 00 >> (longer) >> >>Well, that's all for tonight, I'm getting tired... >> >>John :-#()#

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W9X Multimeter using the audio section
by John Robertson 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Nifty little design here - go to the Multimeter section (it's in English) and read up... http://www.i-adrian.home.ro/ John :-#)# PS, flippers.com is having some email troubles so you might get a bounce if you send anything - I hope not... How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL To do either you send email to "MajorDomo(a)flippers.com" and in the body you state either "Subscribe techtoolslist" or "Unsubscribe techtoolslist", note that the Subject is "" (Blank)... FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/

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Fluke 6800 POD resets when testing UUT...
by John Robertson 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

I don't know if anyone else has had this happen, but I was fixing an Atari pinball MPU and my 6800 pod would give timeout errors and reboot the pod to the default display of "Fluke 9000 Ready". Found a number of interesting causes - first the 6800 uses both phase 1 & 2 clocks, and phase 2 was noisy. Fixed that... So far so good...still got the pod rebooting itself...strange. Unplugged the interconnect cable between the MPU and the Lamp/Audio AUX board and the pod worked perfectly (found additional faults on MPU RAM). Plugged the AUX cable back in - down went the pod. Even gave messages of self test etc flickeringly fast as the base would then reset. None of the lines connect directly to the address or data bus to the AUX board, but there is a filtered A1 and A2 that feed back to the CPU - weird, check the schematic! However if I put the AUX cable on sideways so not all contacts engage the board will work until I get near the A/1 end (the A1/2 are at the K end of the plug - long since connected) at which point the pod craps out again. Pull out scope. Check Audio output lines - they are noisy...find bad latch IC for one Address line for the Audio PROM. Now the board works fine with the AUX cable plugged in. I believe the noisy Audio lines were cross-talking with the two address lines and this was enough to load down the CPU and shut it down. Moral of the story? Don't assume that just because something isn't connected to the Address/DATA bus that it can't take the UUT down! (UUT = Unit Under Test) John :-#)#

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Flippers is back up
by John Robertson 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

I don't know if anyone was trying to email the list since Friday 11AM...but the site was done and everything would have bounced. So this is just a note to let everyone know TTL is back up... John :-#)# How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL To do either you send email to "MajorDomo(a)flippers.com" and in the body you state either "Subscribe techtoolslist" or "Unsubscribe techtoolslist", note that the Subject is "" (Blank)... FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/

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What is a Helios 200 ?
by Paul Swan 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

Hi Guys, What on earth is this thing for? Fluke Helios 200 pod?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2549948052 Just curious... Regards, Paul.

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re: RE: Fluke FIDE update... Good news
by james＠quarterarcade.com 06 Aug '03

06 Aug '03

On vacation now for the rest of this week, but I'll take a look at it when I get back. This would mean that I'd have to make sure that I can do a Font Install (should not be too hard), and I could only use the font if it was free. It's possible that I could also use the same font that MS uses for their development environment. It might also be possible for me to add color highlighting to numbers... that might be just as helpful if not moreso. JB Original Message: >From: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >To: <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Subject: RE: Fluke FIDE update... Good news >Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:58:13 -0700 >I did find a True Type font with a slashed Zero: >http://www.seagullscientific.com/html/slash_0.htm So if anyone else is >having trouble try this font - I shall install it on the shop computer >tomorrow and report results... > >John :-#)# > >At 12:31 PM 05/08/2003 -0700, John Robertson wrote: >>This is SOOOO much better than RKSIC, really great of James to develop it! >> >>I have one question/suggestion today - the FONT used in a problem, I would >>like to use a font that shows a 0 as different than a O...I was looking in >>my Win95 machine's font directory and found a nice one called WST_Engl.fon >>that has the Zero with a slash. >> >>Handy when trying to troubleshoot scripts - we had a typo in the >>9010TEST.S script that was an Oh in place of 0 in the command >>"DPY-+#-YES//NO?O" that ?0 MUST be a Zero of course, but was not...so if >>the font had the slash on a Zero that would make life much easier... >> >>We shall be uploading the program once it works correctly, but for now >>9010TEST.S is sick. >> >>Unless someone has a suggestion for changing default fonts used in >>programs in W95/98 - I don't have my old tips book at the office... >> >>John :-#)# >> >>How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL >> >>To do either you send email to "MajorDomo(a)flippers.com" and in the body >>you state either "Subscribe techtoolslist" or "Unsubscribe techtoolslist", >>note that the Subject is "" (Blank)... >> >>FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/ > > >

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