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9100 Floppy archive updates
by Ian Eure 03 Oct '18

03 Oct '18

I’ve added some things to my 9100 floppy archive recently, just sharing here for visibility. - Tony Jones was kind enough to provide a dump of the 9132A 68000 pod Master User Disks V1.0. Thanks very much, Tony. - A dump of 9100A System V3.0 has been added. The disks are unused, so this is a perfect dump. I’ve been looking for older versions for a while, so very happy to have this. - Three separate Programmer System Disks V3.0 have been added. Unfortunately, all appear to have been used and have serial numbers written back. Since there are multiple copies used on multiple machines, and the serial numbers were written on them, these may be useful for better understanding the 9100’s serial protection. - A second dump of 9100A System V4.1b has been added. The previous dump was incomplete due to a bad userdisk, this one is perfect. - A dump of 9100A System 5.0 (system+userdisks) has been added. Unfortunately, the disks have been used, so the system disks have a serial number written onto them. - A dump of 9100A Programmer System Disk V5.0. Also used and serialized. As always, this stuff is available at: https://github.com/ieure/fluke-9100-disk-archive There’s still lots more 9100 stuff out there that I’d like to save. Please reach out privately if you’re willing to contribute. -- Ian _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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9100FT U36 NVRAM archive?
by John Robertson 29 Sep '18

29 Sep '18

Has anyone backed up their NVRAM XC1765 U36 on a 9100FT? Mine appears to have been corrupted and my 9100FT won't boot with it. Mine is labeled "U36 V1.0", 8-pin device. No PDFs online that are easily found with standard search, need to dig out my old Xilinx book. I have uploaded it: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/91… The zipped previously marked as U36 archive on TTL in the same directory was incorrectly labeled, it was actually the EPROM U26, not the NVRAM U36. I have fixed the file name and text message inside. Thanks, John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 006 async tape data on ftp site + help getting self-test to pass
by Tony Jones 14 Sep '18

14 Sep '18

#1 There are two copies of the tape data on the ftp site: ftp://ftp.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/9010%20Series/9010A%20Tap… 13.5k in size; referenced here: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/2011q2/001031.html and ftp://ftp.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/9010%20Series/9010%20scri… 8.1k in size; referenced here: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/2016q1/002344.html John; this second one that you uploaded is bad and should be removed. According to the source, subprograms 12-18 are BINARY but all that is present in the file for all 7 subprograms is ":1A@@$$ :5350$A3" where 1A is the subprogram identifier, @@ is the subprogram number and $$ is the checksum. sig-a.h appears to contain valid binary data. #2 Using the first image (sig-a.h) I still can't get the self-test procedure detailed on pages 2-12, 2-13 and 2-14 of the 006 operation manual to pass. I've tried now on two different systems (with different clock modules). Each time all I get is "signature 0000 count 255" The manual is marked as "2nd preliminary version" ftp://ftp.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/9010%20Series/9010_Fixtur… Several possible reasons: a) The saved sig-a.h image is also bad. I actually have an NOS tape but of the eleven 9010s I've had, none have a working tape to read it on ;-( b) The manual is incorrect. This is possible. On page 2-14 it says "set the data delay to 4" but there is no such option in the setup. Does anyone have a newer copy? c) I'm not correctly interpreting the resistor hook up instructions on page 2-13. Image of what I'm doing attached. thanks for any help!! _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Souping up the 9100A
by Tony Jones via Techtoolslist 06 Sep '18

06 Sep '18

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 10:04 PM, John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > There is that extra expansion slot which is used for the test card, and so I > expect one could use it for installing the PAK-68 or an adaption of it. I had the same thought. I'm assuming the test-card (if you ever find the instructions) plugs into J4 and some form of cpu accelerator could do the same. Sounds like a fun project. I thought I'd read (somewhere) that Fluke designed an Ethernet card which was intended to plug into J4 but it's a very vague recollection. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Souping up the 9100A
by John Robertson 06 Sep '18

06 Sep '18

Anyone thought about speeding up the 9100A? I recall folks speeding up Macs back in the 80s using 68030s like this story back in 1990: ---------(quote)---------------- http://matsp888.no-ip.org/~mats/Text/Computer/Atari/Atari%20ST/Magazines/Z-… SMALL DEBUTS 68030 BOARD, NETWORKING Dave Small premiered his 68030 adapter board and an APPLETALK network adapter at the Disneyland WOA. The 68030 is "still and experiment" which may or may not ever see commercial production. The first version, just up and running before the show, offers a four-fold speed increase over a standard ST/MEGA. The potential remains for tuning and redesigning the system to yield a theoretical tenfold available increase. The board would go in any existing ST, and might result in a faster machine than the Atari TT itself, although TT specific programs would not likely be accessable by Small's system. The TT is expected to run at about 5 times the ST speed on ST applications. The other surprize for GADGETS is a network adaptor that is almost ready for marketing. Although the perilous FCC approval process lies ahead, the APPLETALK compatible card will attach internally to the MEGA buss and will provide an extra pair of serial ports to any MEGA. They may be addressed as standard serial ports (allowing multiple modem sessions at once, for instance), and in SPECTRE MACINTOSH mode, will allow instant access to MAC peripherals and networks. A price was not announced. Later versions may include a unit compatible with ST and future STE/MEGA STE computers. -----------(end quote)--------- I'm thinking it might be possible to push the 9100 up by 4X would be a nice improvement. There was a company - Total Systems - making accelerators back in '91: https://archive.org/stream/TNM_68020-68030-68040_accelerator_family_Macinto… It appears that the 68030 was the last CPU that had the same instructions as the 68000, if you go higher then software needs to be added to get around some missing instructions: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/43640-and-daystar-68060-accelera… -----------(quote)-------------- The 68040 didn't include all the functionality of a 68030+68882, either. (In particular, the 68040's FPU is missing hardware support for IEEE transcendental functions.) The differences are papered over by trapping the missing instructions and emulating them in software. The same thing can be done to make a 68060 compatible with the 68040, but doing so by a third-party accelerator vendor would of been "tricky" because Apple wouldn't have written the software for them, like they did for the 68040 when the Quadra was introduced. -----------(end quote)----------- What ever happened to Total Systems? John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9010a and Agilent 1670G PCB Offering
by Bob Economaki 06 Sep '18

06 Sep '18

While working on Apple 1's, I had the need to simultaneously connect a Fluke 9010a 6502 POD and an Agilent 1670G Logic Analyzer to the Apple 1 6502 socket for testing and analysis purposes. I was not satisfied with all of the (~40) Agilent flying leads required and wanted a more elegant/stable solution. I developed a PCB solution that allows you via a ZIF socket, to either use the native 6502 CPU or connect the Fluke 9010a 6502 Pod and an Agilent 1670G LA. This works fine for my requirement and I see no reason why it wont work on other 6502 based systems. I developed this in Eagle and had 10 PCB's manufactured. I have some un-populated spares if anyone is interested priced at $50 each. Pictures can be downloaded here. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3eae86vp8ges1cz/AGilent%20Fluke%20PCB%20v1.zip?dl… Let me know if there is any interest. Bob Economaki _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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9100s and Floppy drives updates
by John Robertson 24 Aug '18

24 Aug '18

Shy send me a document he had on replacing a floppy drive on the 9100s. It does appear that I was slightly incorrect where I thought Fluke made several changes to a drive to enable it to work, rather it appears there is one modification and that is for the Sony F17 series where you add a jumper wire from the Disk Detect switch to pin 14 of the CN101 connector (for DR1) and other than setting the drive to D0 that is all. ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/91… My modification table previously listed appears to be valid for upgrading a 9100A to revision G. If you have Revision G motherboard then I expect you have the 1.44 upgrade done look for a bunch of jumpers on the underside to see if your board is already upgraded, but then it should say Rv F or G if factory done... Finding working floppies is still problematic, SONY drives in the F17 series should work with the added jumper assuming the drive is good. I suggest you first try the SONY F17 drive setting and if not then the CANNON HD using Service Disc 6.0, after upgrading the EPROMs to RV5.0/40MB. If you want to update your MB to the G level allowing 1.44 Sony (?) floppies (& you need RV5.0 EPROM) then here are what I think are all the mods: 1) Cut traces @ W5, W6 and W7 2) Jumper W5 (connected to U27-P3) to U72-P9 (unused 7417 gate). 3) Jumper U72-P8 to W7 that connects to J14-P1 4) Jumper other side of W7 (ground) to W6 (side connected to J14-P4) 5) Jumper U27-P1 to U72-P5 (unused 7417 gate) 6) Jumper U72-P6 to J14-P16 (currently N/C) 7) Jumper W6 (connected to CHNG2 - J13-P1) to W5 (connected to J14-P2 - /SPARE) 8) for RV5.0 EPROM check that W2 is cut (40 Meg upgrade ROMs) ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/91… Photos: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/9100%20Series/Photos/ Hope this helps others, saved me a bunch of time! John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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How to enable EDITOR on 9100s?
by John Robertson 24 Aug '18

24 Aug '18

I am obviously overlooking something obvious, but how does one enable the EDITOR on a 9100 that is running 6.1 and has the video card installed? I tried using the service 6.0, but EDITOR does not appear to be an option. What is particularly annoying is I had editor on a 9100 which did not have the video card and when I pressed EDIT it would lock up. I then did some software tweak that removed EDITOR as an option, but I can't find that option again! I feel like an idiot, but I'm hoping someone will take pity no me and say the magic words (RTFM I suspect!) to fix this idiotic problem. Thanks! John :-#(# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Recommend add a fuse upgrade for Fluke 9100 series
by John Robertson 20 Aug '18

20 Aug '18

I am now on the hunt for the small switching transformer on one of my 9100s as the original was cooked. Unfortunately it was not fused by Fluke and I am not sure where I am going to find this sucker. It is T1 and is called Transformer, Converter 775932 (manufacturers #89536) in parts listing. Shy (@ Navatek) hasn't seen one before but is still checking... This is a multi-winding sucker and provides the isolated voltages for the serial ports as well as the 70V for the display. Years ago I had a secondary cap (C101) short on this transformer and it let the magic smoke out. I had set it aside and forgotten, but now I am restoring a few 9100s and dug this out and found the smoked Xformer. In the meantime I have modified all my 9100s lifting the furthest leg of inductor L2 (10uH) away from the power connector J15 and then add a GMA fuse holder in series from raised leg and the PCB. I find a 300ma fuse works just fine. Which is interesting as Fluke put a 1A fuse in the 70V output to the display...obviously overkill! ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/91… I may have to send this transformer core out to get rewound, anyone have a suggestion where? Or I may try my hand in it, I have lots of tiny magnet wire on hand - assuming I can't find the transformer. More photos: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/91… John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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HDR-FLOP.TD0
by John Robertson 20 Aug '18

20 Aug '18

I am still hunting through my floppy images on TTL and this file - zipped as: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org//home/mirrors/flippers/TTL/Test_Equipment/Fluke/91… appears to be part of a guided fault UUT development program, I don't have a working floppy yet so can't import it into one of my 9100s, but the text in it is interesting: DESCRIPTION: This program places the pod in Quick Looping read mode at... DESCRIPTION: This program places the pod in Quick Looping write mode,... FAULTS: test_aborted Please note the code below or refer to Supplementary ! _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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