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9010A to 9100A Program Translator
by John Robertson 19 Aug '18

19 Aug '18

Was digging through my Fluke paper and found my original printed copy for the file called Fluke_9XXX Series Status.xls (on /Fluke page) and buried in the list was Fluke part number 9100A-030 9010A TO 9100A PROGRAM TRANSLATOR. We have the book (PN877696) archived on TTL, but where is the software? Other items on this list are also of interest: 9100A-020 TEST LANGUAGE CHECKER (only have the flyer on TTL) 9100A-904 SOFTWARE UPGRADE/W/PRG'MRS KIT V6.1 (nothing) 9100A-904K INCREMENT UPGRADE KIT/PRG'MR DISK V4.2A (nothing) More stuff listed too, of use for 9100A aficionados to track down...I have asked Shy, haven't heard back yet. John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9010A 006/async self-test
by Tony Jones 17 Aug '18

17 Aug '18

Hi. Has anyone else tried to perform the self-test for the 9010 async module? It is documented on pages 2-13 and 2-14 of the Asynchronous Signature Probe Option 9000A-006 Operation Manual: (http://files.stardustarcade.com/Test%20Equipment/Fluke/PDFs/9000A-006%20Asy…) I'm using the archive of side-a of the tape from ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment/Fluke/9010%20Series/9010A%20Tapes/… (which I think came from Matt Rossiter - http://www.vectorlist.org/TechTools/2011/06/0008.html) I believe the hardware specific binaries are present and executing however I'm unable to successfully pass self-test. I constantly get 0000/255 rather than BB34/256. I interpreted steps 3, 4 and 5 below to mean that I could connect green, yellow and the probe tip to one lead of the 33 ohm resistor and connect red, blue, black and probe ground to the other lead (as that's a lot easier than trying to hang everything off the tips). I'm also not seeing a "data delay" option in the 9010 setup menu so I'm unable to set it to 4. Curious if anyone else gets the expected result? Thanks for your time Tony instructions: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Connect the start and clock (green and yellow) leads of the Clock Module to the tip of the data probe. 4. Connect the stop (red), enable (blue), and ground (black) leads to the data probe ground lead. 5. Connect a 33-ohm, 1/4-watt resistor across the group of connections made in step 3 and the group of connections made in step 4. (The resistor connects so that the data probe tip is shunted to the ground lead.). 7. For the Model 9020A, run the example program listed in Section 6, paragraph 6-5. For the 9005A and 9010A, refer to Initialization of the Signature Function and: - Set the start signal to a rising edge - Sect the clock signal to a falling edge - Set the stop counter to 256 (The clock limit count provides an end to the gate time in lieu of a stop signal.) - Set the data transition (event) count to gated - Set the enable signal to low - Set the data delay to 4 - Press the PULSE HIGH key on the Troubleshooter. - Press the READ PROBE key, and the display reads WAIT followed by SIGNATURE BB34 COUNT 256 Any other signature or count indicates a problem with the Signature Module, the Clock Module, or the Troubleshooter. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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RAM testers
by Joe Magiera 17 Aug '18

17 Aug '18

Does anyone know of any RAM testers or other ways to test 4027 and 4015 RAM? The Bugtrap I use to test 4116 can't do them and NeoLoc's RAM tester can't do them either. A fair number of games use this RAM type. Joe (joemagiera at Ameritech dot net) joemagiera(a)ameritech.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Using a USB floppy emulator with the Fluke 9100
by Tony Jones 14 Aug '18

14 Aug '18

There's been a few posts in the last few days about floppies. Archiving them, trying to get them working etc. There are two parts to the problem: 1. Archiving existing media. Ideally in a) a consistent format b) in a way which allows the status of the disks to be known (bad sectors, modified disks etc). What Ian has come up with is a huge improvement over the mess that was previously on the ftp site. 2. Taking one of the images in an archive and writing it to a blank floppy so it can be installed onto the 9100. The second of these requires two working floppy drives, one on your PC to create the image and another on the Fluke to read it. It also requires a supply of blank floppy disks. SamDisk won't work with USB floppy drives connected to a PC, so you need an older PC mainboard with a floppy interface. I know I'm not the first person to do this but it's possible to use one of the commodity USB Floppy Emulators such as the Gotek (http://www.gotek.in/) with the Fluke 9100. Pictures of my 9105FT with the Gotek installed are here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t9FjN-5rI7PCDkevseEc4bJ1QMS9hPk1?us… I think the Gotek cost me $17 shipped. I'm running the free Flash Floppy firmware (https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy) You will need a USB->serial header adapter to initially flash this. I've also performed the common mod to add an i2c lcd display ($3) which allows you to select images by name on the front panel. I plan to add the small speaker to minic the drive head sound (after using it for a while I miss the audio confirmation that something is taking place). Geir Fraser who wrote the Xen hypervisor wrote Flash Floppy, he also wrote disk-utilities which supports converting from Kryoflux stream format to HFE, one of the formats supported by Flash Floppy. It's possible to have hundreds of floppy images stored on the Gotek (limited only by the size of the USB stick) and you can select which one is active via the two switches on the drive. You can boot images (service disk etc) off the Gotek using SOFT+F2+F4 or you can use it as the source for an fd0->hdd copy. If you have a 9105FT which has two floppy bags you can install a DPDT switch onto the drive 0/1 select lines and install a Gotek and a standard floppy and switch between them (normally the firmware when configured for 9100 mode only sees FD0). You'll need to set the interface type to "shugart" in FF.CFG on the root of your USB stick, other than this it's plug and play. HTH. Tony _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 Service Kit 818948?
by teeray 11 Aug '18

11 Aug '18

Kryoflux stream format is not the standard. How would people without a Kryoflux board write the disk image ? All you need is a raw dump of the disk. Then everyone can write the image to a disk. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Tony Jones via Techtoolslist <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Sent: Aug 10, 2018 11:37 PM >To: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com>, Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Cc: Tony Jones <tony(a)tonyjones.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 Service Kit 818948? > >On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:23 PM, John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > >> So far have found a >> pair of floppies labelled "9100A/AF UUT Test Disk V1.0" which may be the >> above mentioned disks for the Service Kit. > >I have several copies of this disk. I thought it had already been >archived in the github archive but I just checked again and I don't >see it. >It's best if it gets dumped in Kryoflux stream format, same as all >the other 9100 disks. There isn't much point having a few outliers >stored on the ftp site in some other format. > >Curious on the extended board. Does it have a ZIF on it? I have a >half dozen mystery extender boards with ZIFs on them. > >Obviously all of the above is handled totally differently on the FT >version, per the sync connector on the mainboard. >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9100 Service Kit 818948?
by John Robertson 11 Aug '18

11 Aug '18

Anyone ever run into this kit? According to the 9100 service manual it consists of: The Service Kit uses Guided Fault Isolation (GFI) programs to assist in troubleshooting 9100A/9105A systems. The Service Kit contains GFI and utility programs, an extender board, and instructions. John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Canon MD350 floppy on Fluke 9100
by John Robertson 10 Aug '18

10 Aug '18

Anyone have a 9100 that is working with the Canon MD-350 floppy drive and can share the jumper settings? I have three drives here that won't work on a good 9100 (it likes the Sony F17s) and I am using the 6.0 Service disk (Micro-SD). Tried both the basic CANON setting and the CANNON HD (factory typo!) setting, which I assume is for a 1.4 Canon drive of unknown part number (to me). Thanks, John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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6116 memory tester
by Marc Desfossés 09 Aug '18

09 Aug '18

Hi, I was wondering if you knew good tools to test 6116 memory chips. Any tester or DIY tool to recommend ? Thanks Marc _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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