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Atari Return of the Jedi Schematics / Manual
by Bill Karkula 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A and Space Invaders
by Phil Morris 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

>Is this board still in the cab or is it on the bench? On the bench. >Does the 2 board L-Shape set have any kind of power-on-reset circuit like >the 3 board Taito sets? Oh, hang on, nope you said it works okay with the >normal CPU. Exactly. The loom has been adapted to ensure that the normally external Reset circuit (I mean the one in the PSU circuit) isn't required (hence the reason it works with a normal 8080 while on the bench). >Maybe the board's reset circuit isn't playing too well with >the fluke? Well, should be okay as the Fluke works fine with the 3-layer S.I. boardsets which also have the same reset requirements. >If it has one. As i say, i'm talking general things here SI is not one of >the hardware's i've really done anything with beyond basic >troubleshooting. I've certainly not put one on my fluke. Don't think i >even have an 8080 pod :) Fair enough - thanks for the help so far. Phil _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A and Space Invaders
by Phil Morris 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

>Is this board still in the cab or is it on the bench? On the bench. >Does the 2 board L-Shape set have any kind of power-on-reset circuit like >the 3 board Taito sets? Oh, hang on, nope you said it works okay with the >normal CPU. Exactly. The loom has been adapted to ensure that the normally external Reset circuit (I mean the one in the PSU circuit) isn't required (hence the reason it works with a normal 8080 while on the bench). >Maybe the board's reset circuit isn't playing too well with >the fluke? Well, should be okay as the Fluke works fine with the 3-layer S.I. boardsets which also have the same reset requirements. >If it has one. As i say, i'm talking general things here SI is not one of >the hardware's i've really done anything with beyond basic >troubleshooting. I've certainly not put one on my fluke. Don't think i >even have an 8080 pod :) Fair enough - thanks for the help so far. Phil _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A and Space Invaders
by Tony Gonzalez 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Phil,. I've used the 8080 pod on the 2 board and it works fine. I got that error once with one of the clock signals being bad by a broken trace. Evidently, the pod check out all the powers and the clock signals going in for integrity. Now, I have a Z80 pod with a uut power fail on a galaga, but all the signals are looking good at the socket. John, do you have a definite to look for why the uut power fail or pod timeout errors, what causes them? Thanks Tony --- Phil Morris <phil(a)morris0.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > I have a Fluke 9010A with an 8080 pod - said > combination works fine with > every '3-layer' Taito Space Invaders boardset that > I've used it with, but > if I try it on *good, working* 'L-shaped' Taito > boards I get the error: > > UUT Power Fail > > This has me puzzled - why should the Fluke work fine > with one type of > boardset, yet not the L-shaped set, even though said > L-shaped sets work > perfectly with an 8080 in the CPU socket? > > > > Thanks, > Phil > > > > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A and Space Invaders
by Tony Gonzalez 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Think 1, but thats an idea with the Z80 side of things.... --- John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > Hmm, I wonder if the SI boardset left out a ground > that they thought > wasn't needed by the CPU, but the Fluke is > expecting...how many > grounds does the 8080 want? Too lazy to look it up. > > John :-#)# > > At 10:08 PM +0000 4/13/05, Martin White wrote: > >Umm, go into the setup and disable the UUT Power > Fail check?? > > > >I trust the power supply voltage isn't just too low > down to the PSU or maybe > >voltage drop across an adapter? > > > >Soory, very obvious points i know, but you gotta > mention them :) > > > >On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:57, Phil Morris > wrote: > >> >Phil,. I've used the 8080 pod on the 2 board > and it > >> >works fine. > >> > > >> >I got that error once with one of the clock > signals > >> >being bad by a broken trace. > >> > > >> >Evidently, the pod check out all the powers and > the > >> >clock signals going in for integrity. > >> > >> But that's the thing - the boardset *does* work > perfectly with a normal > >> 8080 in the CPU socket. > >> > >> I too was thinking of a clock signals problem, > but they all check out okay. > >> > >> > >> Phil > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Techtoolslist mailing list > >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > >> > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > >_______________________________________________ > >Techtoolslist mailing list > >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > > > -- > John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, > Canada V5T 3C9 > Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, > VideoGames) > www.flippers.com > "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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RE: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A and Space Invaders
by Tony Gonzalez 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Now, if only I can disable the pot timeout thing... Tony --- Phillip Eaton <inbox(a)phillipeaton.com> wrote: > I've had similar problems on PCBs that run fine with > a CPU. I think it may > have happened on my L-shaped SI. > > As Martin said, I just disabled the UUT test and it > worked fine. > > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: techtoolslist-bounces(a)flippers.com > [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com]On Behalf > Of Phil Morris > Sent: 13 April 2005 21:30 > To: techtoolslist(a)lists7.flippers.com > Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A and Space > Invaders > > > I have a Fluke 9010A with an 8080 pod - said > combination works fine with > every '3-layer' Taito Space Invaders boardset that > I've used it with, but > if I try it on *good, working* 'L-shaped' Taito > boards I get the error: > > UUT Power Fail > > This has me puzzled - why should the Fluke work fine > with one type of > boardset, yet not the L-shaped set, even though said > L-shaped sets work > perfectly with an 8080 in the CPU socket? > > > > Thanks, > Phil > > > > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > > > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Logic Analyser adevice needed
by pc2jamma 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Hi ! Thank you guys for the information... I'll start with one cheap maybe a Tektronix 1241 or one HP 1630 first. Again, Thank you very much ! José Luiz Martins De:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com Para:"Technical Tools Mail List" techtoolslist(a)flippers.com Cópia: Data:Wed, 13 Apr 2005 05:29:43 -0500 Assunto:Re: [Techtoolslist] Logic Analyser adevice needed > Easier to search with the name right---it's Rohde & Schwarz. Finally > found their US site at http://www.rohde-schwarz.com/ . Some of their > equipment is repaired by Tektronix. > > No mention of the LAC64, though. Is LAC64 correct or is there a dash or > space in their somewhere? > > > > Mike Coates wrote: > > > Seems a good point to mention I still could do with a manual for my > > rhode and shwartz LAC64 logic analyser if anyone knows the whereabouts > > of one. > > > > and I got it to assist in reverse engineering custom chips - for > > repairs, it's fluke and logic probe 99% of the time. > > > > I even got a signature analyser, but never bother with it - anything > > it does seems to be easier using the fluke > > _______________________________________________ > > Techtoolslist mailing list > > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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fluke 9010 68000 pod wanted
by tony 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

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Logic Analyser adevice needed
by pc2jamma 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

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any info on this test setup?
by Electronicamuse＠aol.com 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

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