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Fluke 9000A mystery adapter (for me at least ;-)
by John Robertson 20 Feb '18

20 Feb '18

I have a pod module here called "Z8 I/F ADAPTER" Fluke #9000-200/AB. It has no cable to the base, just a 40 pin CPU cable. Inside is a couple of RAM chips, and some Fluke hybrid interface ICs. Any guesses? John :-#)#

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Re: Cracking the 9010A ROM signature generator
by Kev 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

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Re: 8086 pod for fluke?
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hey, that would be my cue :) All of the M72, M82, M84 games from Irem use a NEC V20 which is a 8086 with some extra instructions. It's also pin compatible so the 8086 pod is usable with it. Of course, there aren't exactly many of these around :) Chris (M72 = RType, Dragon Breed, XMultiply, + others, M82 = RType II, Pound for Pound, M84 = Major Title) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 8086 pod for fluke? Author: Noel Johnson <nej(a)airmail.net> at Internet Date: 1/17/00 12:09 AM Hello All, I am about to obtain an 8086 pod for a fluke 9010. Did any arcade games use the 8086 or am I going to have to trade this puppy away?? Thanks! Noel

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Re[2]: Fluke T-shooters
by Chris_Hardy＠vie.co.uk 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Does anyone know if the scripts for the 9010 work on a 9100a?? It may also be of interest to know that someone (presumably Al Kossow) has scanned and pdf'ed a lot of the fluke manuals and uploaded them to www.spies.com/arcade. There's a fluke directory which has some 9010 scripts and the .exe to compile them, and in the TE directory there are manuals for the 9010,9100 and most of the POD's. (I presume Al wrote the scripts) Unfortunately, the user manual for the 9100 isn't there. Sigh... Chris (I would like a copy of the scipt also :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Fluke T-shooters Author: John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> at Internet Date: 1/11/00 8:40 AM I found the Asteroids script, had downloaded it a while ago and it was lurking in the wrong area. Would anyone like a copy? John :-#)#

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RE: Replace the 9010A base with an IBM Parallel port?
by John Robertson 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Does anyone here want to assist by disassembling the Z80 (or 6502 or 680X) code in one of the pods to figure out the command codes? Now that we have an idea of the results, a list of the command codes might make it very easy to continue to the next stage-actually talking to a pod on the parallel port. I think it is actually not going to be that difficult.... The code is on the archive site ftp://ftp.flippers.com/Fluke John :-#)# --------------------------------------------<results if you missed them>------------------------------------------------- More results: Great, when you do a First READ on the pod, you get a RESET to the pod, and a bunch of chatter: READ FE55 = 31: 30 35 REAL LONG PAUSE ... RESET AB 36 38 30 32 20 20 PAUSE FOR (about) TWO CYCLES(2P) 24 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF (P) (P) (P) 00 00 00 00 (P) FF FF FF FE (P) 00 00 08 00 30 (P) 4D 52 20 20 20 20 P P P P 48 41 4C 54 20 20 P P P 0E 00 06 30 00 LONG PAUSE HERE.....PERHAPS 10 TIME UNITS THEN 30 35 55 31 00 Now I'll try to do some more reads...This is exactly the order as entered... Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, high address, low address, data read, Stop) N MP MP MP MP MP ( N means no handshaking, M is MAINSTAT & P is PODSTAT) 4567 FF = 5A 35 45 67 FF 00 89AB FF = 53 35 89 AB FF 00 0001 00 = AB 35 00 01 00 00 Write @ Loc. Data N MP MP MP MP 0101 AA = 01 23 01 AA 00 MP 2055 56 = AA 33 20 55 56 00 0101 43 = 56 33 01 01 43 00 Read... N MP MP MP MP MP 2055 FF = 43 35 20 55 FF 00 F808 FF = 55 35 F8 08 FF 00 F9AB FF = 08 35 F9 AB FF 00 FDEA FC = AB 35 FD EA FC 00 I think I now see the pattern for reads/writes. The first byte is the LAST DATA, note that the timing for that is such that MAINSTAT and PODSTAT have done nothing until the second byte. I suspect the 1st data byte is there for the REPEAT function...so lets try that... Repeat... N MP MP MP FDEA FC = EA 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 Repeat... FDEA FC = 05 05 FC 00 OK, for REPEAT the first Byte (again before M or Podstat) is 1st the last data,then the last instruction. Now lets try a write again... Write... N MP MP MP MP MP 0123 45 = 05 33 01 23 45 00 0123 66 = 45 03 66 00 (much shorter for a second write to the same address!) Thus 03 is "Same Address Write" Read... N MP MP MP MP 0124 00 = 66 15 24 00 00 (hmmm looks like "15" is read increment(?) to next byte. let's test... 0125 00 = 24 15 25 00 00 (now lets skip a few...) 012F 00 = 25 15 2F 00 00 (and a few more...) 0138 00 = 2F 15 38 00 00 (lets shift up a little ways...) 0238 FF = 38 25 02 FF 00 (interesting...seems to latch the 38, ok, lets change both a bit) 0339 EF = 02 35 03 39 EF 00 (OK, it caught that, "35" might mean "new address read") I think the pattern that is coming out is something close to this X3 = write, X5 = read, if X = 0 then same address, if X = 1, then same address high byte, if X = 2 then latch low address byte, if X = 3 new address bytes. Yes, this looks right so far... TIMING The very first byte is BEFORE you get any handshaking...then you get MAINSTAT, then shortly after you get PODSTAT which ends just after MAINSTAT ends, then the remaining handshaking has POD end with MAIN. Boy I wish this had time marks... John :-#)# ...:56 AM 05/03/2002 -0800, John Robertson wrote: >>Read @ Location Data Softla results (Start byte, command byte, >>high address, low address, data read, Stop) > > 0208 FF = 00 35 02 08 FF 00 > 0505 EF = 99 35 05 05 EF 00 > 1050 FF = 13 35 10 50 FF 00 > FE55 31 = 00 35 FE 55 31 00 > >Got it! the first data byte seems to grab the pods attention, often a 00, >but perhaps (?) not that important, but it certainly looks like a Clean >(no other read action in front) Read is "35" then the address and the >resulting data. It appears that multiple reads change the communication >with the pod in the sense that if you take two reads (different locations) >in a row the command string is different. Stay tuned this evening when I >dig into more reads and test the writes. > >John :-#)# > > >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 (result) >> 0101 FE = 00 21 00 FE 00 >> 0200 EF = 01 35 02 00 EF >> 00(result - a little longer this time...) >> 0300 EF = 00 26 03 EF 00 >> 8000 EF = 02 26 80 EF 00 >> C000 FF = 80 26 C0 FF 00 >> F800 FF = C0 26 F8 FF 00 >> FC00 8E = F8 26 FC 8E 00 >> FC05 8D = FC 16 05 8D 00 >> FCEE EE = 05 16 CC EE 00 >> 0200 EF = CC 35 02 EF 00 (same >> length as others now...) >> 0000 AA = 00 23 00 AA 00 >> >>Now I'll try some writes: >>Write @ Location Data (results) >> 0000 55 = 00 03 55 00 >> 0100 AA = 55 25 01 AA 00 >> 0200 AA = CC 23 02 AA 00 >> 8000 44 = CC 23 80 44 00 >> EF08 11 = 0C 33 EF 08 11 00 >> (longer) >> >>Well, that's all for tonight, I'm getting tired... >> >>John :-#()#

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Micro Concepts Boardwalker 101
by Corey Stup 15 May '03

15 May '03

Does anyone else have one of these units? I've disassembled the software in order to update the unit to a wider range of devices supported. Looking to see if anyone has any other version of firmware in their unit. Mine has the base software as V2.50, 03/19/87. Library is "STD" V1.6 2/18/87.

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Galaxian Memory MAP
by Greg Baumgratz 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Anyone taken the time to do this yet or is it already documented somewhere? Couldn't find it last night, so what better to do on a cold snowy evening but analyze schematics? Anyway, here's what I found so far - any documentation to add or corrections to sleepy analyzations? ROM space 7U:$0000-$07FF 7V:$0800-$0FFF 7W:$1000-$17FF 7Y:$1800-$1FFF 7Z:$2000-$27FF Fluke 9010a checksum values by ROM 7U: FFDE 7V: 4055 7W: FCD2 7Y: 1241 7Z: 44E1 RAM @ 7P and 7N 1KX8 total space 7P lower four bits (D0-D3), 7N upper four bits (D4-D7) $4000-$43FF RAM@ 3H AND 3F (Video RAM) 1KX8 total space, 3H lower four bits (D0-D3), 3F upper four bits (D4-D7) $5000-$53FF RAM@ 4F AND 5F (Object RAM) 256X8 total space, 4F lower four bits (D0-D3), 5F upper four bits (D4-D7) $5800-$58FF I think there are more RAM locations (the board location fails me right now) and I havn't looked for sound and dip locations. Can anyone add to this? Thanks, Greg

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Fluke Used Price List
by Greg Baumgratz 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

I received a catalog in the mail some time ago and have been meaning to post this. Add up the money you have invested according to this company. Fluke 9000A-6502 $950 Fluke 9000A-6800 $799 Fluke 9000A-68000 $2100 Fluke 9000A-6809 $950 Fluke 9000A-80186 $1431 Fluke 9000A-80188 $2594 Fluke 9000A-80286 $2462 Fluke 9000A-8048/8041 $1450 Fluke 9000A-8051 $1275 Fluke 9000A-8080 $799 Fluke 9000A-8085 $950 Fluke 9000A-8086 $1500 Fluke 9000A-8088 $1220 Fluke 9000A-Z80 $750 Fluke 9005A $2000 Fluke 9010A $999 Fluke 9010A/01 $1500 Fluke 9020A $2500 Fluke 9100A $4995 I have a mint in test equipment here - anyone else? The equipment is tested, calibrated, and warranteed, but wow. Oh, in case you are interested in buying it's Test Equipment Connection @ 800 819 8378. In case you want to use this to set your selling prices... good luck. Kind of makes John's for sale items look like a greater bargain than they already are - now doesn't it? By the way, there is a not at the top of each page that states 'Prices may be negotiable.' Wonder what that depends on? It seems they also do trade ins, repair and calibration. I wonder if they might be a source for any type of hard to find parts? Greg

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Re: Fluke Used Price List
by Kurt Mahan 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Wonder if the insurance company would buy off on these prices as the "replacement" prices in case of an accident (fire/flood/etc).. Kurt > I received a catalog in the mail some time ago and have been meaning to > post this. Add up the money you have invested according to this > company. > > Fluke 9000A-6502 $950 > Fluke 9000A-6800 $799 > Fluke 9000A-68000 $2100 > Fluke 9000A-6809 $950 > Fluke 9000A-80186 $1431 > Fluke 9000A-80188 $2594 > Fluke 9000A-80286 $2462 > Fluke 9000A-8048/8041 $1450 > Fluke 9000A-8051 $1275 > Fluke 9000A-8080 $799 > Fluke 9000A-8085 $950 > Fluke 9000A-8086 $1500 > Fluke 9000A-8088 $1220 > Fluke 9000A-Z80 $750 > > Fluke 9005A $2000 > Fluke 9010A $999 > Fluke 9010A/01 $1500 > Fluke 9020A $2500 > Fluke 9100A $4995 > > I have a mint in test equipment here - anyone else? The equipment is > tested, calibrated, and warranteed, but wow. Oh, in case you are > interested in buying it's Test Equipment Connection @ 800 819 8378. In > case you want to use this to set your selling prices... good luck. Kind > of makes John's for sale items look like a greater bargain than they > already are - now doesn't it? > > By the way, there is a not at the top of each page that states 'Prices > may be negotiable.' Wonder what that depends on? It seems they also do > trade ins, repair and calibration. I wonder if they might be a source > for any type of hard to find parts? > > > Greg

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Re: 9100a on ebay
by Amplifone＠aol.com 24 Nov '02

24 Nov '02

In a message dated 11/23/02 8:02:09 PM, jrr(a)flippers.com writes: << This IS a 9100A not an 9100AF , I don't think I refer to it as a 9100AF...I'll rewrite the add a bit as per below >> It doesn't say on the unit but the entire system is actually referred to as the 9100A/AF. All the pods should say A/AF on the boxes and the fluke/philips warranty sticker on each unit (uncluding the 9100a itself) will say this as well. As seen in the pic on your auction, the 9100a's warranty sticker does indeed say "9100A/AF board tester" I don't know if there is any difference to the pod's construction.. I seem to recall there is a sheet added into each of the pod's manuals that says something is different about the pods? .. I could be way off but if there is something different about them it would only be an improvement to fill some mil-spec requirement... Jeff

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