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Example code for Calculating CRC32 on the Fluke 9100
by Andy Welburn 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

hi all. Well, after running into this on more than one occasion, i decided to do something about it, you know when you have soldered-in roms on a game pcb and you don't have any 'good' signatures for that rom in particular? Don't want to have to desolder the rom? Don't have a reader capable of reading that funky rom? Still want to check the roms contents with a known good dump? I'm working on an Atari Sprint 2 pcb right now with just such a problem, after building an adapter to replace the 2k*8 PROM soldered-in with a 2716, i could then verify that i did have a bad prom there, and subsequently managed to verify all other roms by burning a bunch of 2716's with mame code and verifying sigs taken from the real roms in place against the known good 2716... However, while doing this, i pestered a few peopel into trying to crack the fluke 9100 signature calculation routine so that i could run it on mame roms and verify on the fluke itself. This is no easy task and i've been asking around for this for a while now... so i gave up, and thought to myself it would be great if i could calculate a reliable signature on the 9100 that is easily calculated on the pc on mame roms... Well then CRC32 is an answer to this, MAME carries CRC32's of all the roms it uses in all its game drivers, an excellent source of known-good sigs! With the help of Chris Hardy - who found this small CRC calculator code online - it looked like it could be converted for TL/1 use: http://www.di-mgt.com.au/crypto.html#CRC My C programming skills are very rusty, and it saved me a lot of time talking to Chris to just check on the meanings of the C statements in this CRC calculator code... Once Chris explained some of it to me in English, it helped me to translate it to what i know of TL/1... and here's the result of equivalent code : http://www.andysarcade.net/pix/DSC_2380.JPG (full program code omitted, but if you know TL/1 you know the meat and potatoes is in the middle bit - so long as you declare numeric crc=$FFFFFFFF, numeric temp, numeric j, numeric octets at the top) I'm no rocket-scientist, but i stuck this in my PROGLIB and it'll now be available to all my other UUT programs :) Its not tidy code, its not the quickest or most efficient, but it works... If you can suggest a better way of doing it, then please do expand on this if you can! I'm interested to hear who is actually actively programming on the 9100, is it just me all on my own?? I know a few people who own the 9100 units, but i'm the only one amongst them that seems to be using the editing suite... Whats the situation with you lot here on the list? A show of hands would be nice to see... Maybe we can pool resources and swap code snippets? I have hundreds of rom sigs and a growing collection of programs i have written, I understand anyones reluctance to give this info up for free (i have certainly put in a considerable amount of time on the fluke) so i'm looking to trade info with other people if anyone needs it? Personally i'm not after much info myself, but i'm always keen to add to my own knowledge base, and i don't mind helping others out with programming, and advice on the pitfalls of bugs in TL/1 etc.. :-) Of course, I could be delusional and I really am the only one doing any programming with it... so speak up! Andy Welburn http://www.andys-arcade.com _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Working 9100 Keyboard adapter
by martin＠guddler.co.uk 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

Hi, In case anyone is interested, I've just posted details on a working keyboard adapter on my website: http://www.guddler.co.uk It's in the "Projects" section. I've been using it here for a week or so now. Thanks to a virtual machine causing a kernel panic and corrupting a couple of the project files I have a bit of work to do before I can post the source code, but I've put my BIN file from my working PIC there until then. I also have a USA keyboard in my possession too so that's being worked on over the next week or so (GB keyboard right now). All the details are on my website, although there do seem to be some DNS issues with the site at this precise moment (typical!) Let me know off list of any problems. Martin. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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9100 Video display
by martin＠guddler.co.uk 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

Hi, Can anyone give me a clue on how to connect a monitor up to the 9100FT please? I have a B/W composite video monitor available to me (Tandy TRS-80 monitor), or of course a standard arcade monitor (10" MTC9000). Is it a simple case of wiring up the RGB and sync pins from the 9 pin d connector on the back to the arcade monitor or is there more to it than that? I don't know if the video card in this unit is B/W or Colour, or if indeed there is a difference. Do they all do both? And does anyone have any documentation specifically on the FT? Is there anything that says what the specific differences are beyond the HD floppy and the faster processor? There's 8 memory sockets for instance. Is that normal on all 9100's? Thanks, Martin. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Diameter of leads
by martin＠guddler.co.uk 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

Hi, I've been trying to get hold of some "grabbers" for some test kit. Namely to go on the end of the fly leads on both the 9100 clock module and also an HP5006 sig. analyser. I've been able to find grabbers with "0.025 inch square output pins". Does anyone know if this is right? I can't get access to the kit right now to measure the diameter of the ends of the leads. I'm not sure if I could measure them very well anyway. I don't desperately want to order over 20 or more of the wrong thing! Thanks, Martin. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Fluke 9100 stuff wanted
by martin＠guddler.co.uk 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

Hi all, Before I go trawling eBay and doing it the hard way does anyone have any 9100 surplus kit FS please? Someone on here was been kind enough to sort me out with a cheap base unit but I need pretty much everything else... I realise not all of this will turn up over night. I'm in the UK so seller must be willing to ship abroad. All I really have FT is a non working 68000 pod I'm afraid, other than that, good old paypal. Probe Clock Module <*cough*> Video Card <*cough*> !! Keyboard (x2 as the chap sorting me the base unit also needs one) Perhaps not straight away, but will be on the lookout: IO Module Clips etc. Did anyone ever get anywhere with using a standard AT keyboard? And how about the using compact flash instead of the hard drive? (I read the archives for the past two years yesterday!) Thanks, Martin. PS: Then I can start digging into the programming side of things and hopefully start to contribute to Andy :o) _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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FS fluke 9100 stuff
by bob 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

Hi, I have the following 9100a items; -9100ft that has the video card, scsi drive, high density floppy, has been sitting in my garage for a couple of years, when I turned it on to see if it still worked it warned me that a battery needs changed (maybe it will charge with use?) then proceeded to the normal menu's -9100a (not the ft) that needs floppy and hard drive replacement -memory interface pod with 68030 personality module and various rom pods -clock module -probe I would take $600 for the lot (plus shipping from southern Ohio if you do not want to pick it up) thanks, Bob _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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transistor help (off topic)
by Joe Magiera 12 Dec '07

12 Dec '07

I'm sorry, I know this is a little off topic, but no one responded on the vector list and I'm hoping someone might be able to help here. A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors (Electrohome G08_105). He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help. They are both bottle cap type transistors. The first is SDT1064. He did find a cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each. We're hoping to find a cheaper alternative, as we need 8 of them. The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36. He can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a cross. Can anyone help? Thanks, Joe joemagiera(a)ameritech.net _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Re: [Techtoolslist] transistor help (off topic)
by William E Miller 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

> A buddy of mine is working on a couple of Cosmic Chasm monitors (Electrohome > G08_105). He is pretty good at finding crosses to current components, but > has been stumped on a couple that I'm hoping someone here can help. They > are both bottle cap type transistors. The first is SDT1064. He did find a > cross to this by NTE, but they are $18 each. We're hoping to find a cheaper > alternative, as we need 8 of them. So what NTE cross did you come up with? With that, we might be able to do a cross back to another equivalent. I checked SDT1064 an did not find an NTE cross. > The other one is a Hitachi, and the only thing on them is 14-601-36. He > can't find anything on this one, not even a spec sheet to try to find a > cross. Could you post the reference designator numbers of the transsitors in question? That might help. I have a Sega / Gremin G08 monitor here I will refer to. William E. Miller, AS-EET prototech(a)usa.net † http://www.MicrowaveDisplay.com Microwave Oven Control Panel Repair Nationwide $39.95 Appreciate our help? Help us help others: http://www.microwavedisplay.com/helpushelpu.htm _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Fluke 9100A Keyboard Needed
by Mark Hooks 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

I'm trying to set up my 9100A to do some programming but I can't find a Keyboard for it. I have everythig else I need. If you have a spare youre willing to sell please let me know. I have a lot of pods and the like for trade as well (6800, 6802, 8080, 8085, 8086, 9132, probe, etc.). Mark Hooks 888-261-8265 _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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Fluke 9100 programming
by Andy Welburn 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

hi all.. i wonder if i'm the only one with this niggling problem, i'm doing increasingly more programming on my 9100 now, and the one thing that really gets my goat is that after powering up the UUT with CPU POD in place and hitting 'reset' you have to remember to hit main menu | mode | test by continuing with faults before loading the editor or any UUT programs you may have written, otherwise they'll dump out of your program with either a fault window on the editor display, or with an error on the user terminal. I've looked through a lot of the manuals, and i still can't find any reference to setting this up in a UUT program with a command of some kind... Has anyone else worked round this? or am i just being picky? i know TLl/1 has its share of bugs and quirks, but this one i'd like to sort out. Also, i've built programs for each UUT in each its own UUT directory, ideally i'd like to boot the 9100 into a frontend that will allow me to immediately load up a uut program from a menu, or to dump me to the user terminal, but i can't find a way to 'execute' a UUT program that isn't in the same directory as the calling program, i tried /hdr/UUTNAME/program_name but it doesn't like that either.. any pointers? Andy _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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