Hi all, Before I go trawling eBay and doing it the hard way does anyone have any 9100 surplus kit FS please? Someone on here was been kind enough to sort me out with a cheap base unit but I need pretty much everything else... I realise not all of this will turn up over night. I'm in the UK so seller must be willing to ship abroad. All I really have FT is a non working 68000 pod I'm afraid, other than that, good old paypal. Probe Clock Module <*cough*> Video Card <*cough*> !! Keyboard (x2 as the chap sorting me the base unit also needs one) Perhaps not straight away, but will be on the lookout: IO Module Clips etc. Did anyone ever get anywhere with using a standard AT keyboard? And how about the using compact flash instead of the hard drive? (I read the archives for the past two years yesterday!) Thanks, Martin. PS: Then I can start digging into the programming side of things and hopefully start to contribute to Andy :o) _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
martin@guddler.co.uk wrote:
Hi all,
Before I go trawling eBay and doing it the hard way does anyone have any 9100 surplus kit FS please?
Someone on here was been kind enough to sort me out with a cheap base unit but I need pretty much everything else...
I realise not all of this will turn up over night. I'm in the UK so seller must be willing to ship abroad. All I really have FT is a non working 68000 pod I'm afraid, other than that, good old paypal.
Probe Clock Module <*cough*> Video Card <*cough*> !! Keyboard (x2 as the chap sorting me the base unit also needs one)
Perhaps not straight away, but will be on the lookout: IO Module Clips etc.
Did anyone ever get anywhere with using a standard AT keyboard?
And how about the using compact flash instead of the hard drive?
(I read the archives for the past two years yesterday!)
Thanks, Martin. PS: Then I can start digging into the programming side of things and hopefully start to contribute to Andy :o) _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
SCSI drive emulation would be a treat! Here is one link for a product to replace SCSI drives: http://www.adtron.com/products/Sdds.html Then we need someone to design a video card to replace the original so the machines can be useful...and what DID happen to the keyboard hack anyways? David? Corey? John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
SCSI drive emulation would be a treat! Here is one link for a product to replace SCSI drives:
http://www.adtron.com/products/Sdds.html I have worked with a couple SCSI->flash projects for the 9100. Some are successful, others not so much.
The SCSI interfaced flash HD's seem to work fine (under approx 700MB, above and you get the overflow issue in the editor). I have a couple running in 9100's now and they work perfectly, and no moving parts. I've not been as successful with using the SCSI PCMCIA adaptors that allow for AT flash cards as a SCSI device. I believe its do to the sector sizes being different, but I've not had a chance to followup on it. I believe that another project that I have going (updating our kernel to OS-9 2.3) might help that, as its FS drivers allow for a larger range of sector sizes. I have a SCSI bus analyzer that has helped debug the SCSI driver but I lost interest in that project, it could be dug back out again if there were others interested.
Then we need someone to design a video card to replace the original so the machines can be useful...and what DID happen to the keyboard hack anyways? David? Corey? I never worked on the keyboard hack, but I'd be happy to pick it back up.
I have a ton of 9100 parts that eventually I need to do something with. Consoles, cards, parts, -003 modules, etc. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll be checking out the scsi adapter route when the 9100 get's here I think. that looks quite interesting. From what I can see of the keyboard interface project, it was all going quite well but was put on hold on 24th June 2003 because of deadlines on some other projects. David Shoemaker was running with it at that time. Then a baby appears to have come along early in 2004 :o) It looks like the adapters were essentially completed with a couple of limitations that I'm sure people could live with (no keyboard repeat, no lights) but never actually produced apart from a couple of test versions that went to Kev (mowerman I presume) and James? Anyway, from my reading up, as far as I can tell there's going to be absolutely nothing I can do with this unit in terms of programming and automating tasks apart from immediate mode operations without the keyboard and video card as even terminal emulation to send files to and from it requires initialising from within edit mode, then some file operations and conversions afterwards? Someone correct me if this is wrong? Very frustrating but I guess I'll just have to be patient and stick with it. I'm assuming I may have to even buy another entire base unit with a video card in it by the time I'm done but I've already been looking for one for about a year now so I don't hold out much hope for that happening too soon either! This thing looks like an entire new hobby all of it's own - looking forward to it :o) Martin. On 31 Dec 2007, at 18:12, Corey Stup wrote:
SCSI drive emulation would be a treat! Here is one link for a product to replace SCSI drives: http://www.adtron.com/products/Sdds.html I have worked with a couple SCSI->flash projects for the 9100. Some are successful, others not so much.
The SCSI interfaced flash HD's seem to work fine (under approx 700MB, above and you get the overflow issue in the editor). I have a couple running in 9100's now and they work perfectly, and no moving parts.
I've not been as successful with using the SCSI PCMCIA adaptors that allow for AT flash cards as a SCSI device. I believe its do to the sector sizes being different, but I've not had a chance to followup on it. I believe that another project that I have going (updating our kernel to OS-9 2.3) might help that, as its FS drivers allow for a larger range of sector sizes. I have a SCSI bus analyzer that has helped debug the SCSI driver but I lost interest in that project, it could be dug back out again if there were others interested.
Then we need someone to design a video card to replace the original so the machines can be useful...and what DID happen to the keyboard hack anyways? David? Corey? I never worked on the keyboard hack, but I'd be happy to pick it back up.
I have a ton of 9100 parts that eventually I need to do something with. Consoles, cards, parts, -003 modules, etc. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
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I'll be checking out the scsi adapter route when the 9100 get's here I think. that looks quite interesting.
I have 2 of the Adtron SDDS's, I've yet to be able to get a PC card to format properly in it (my comments about the sector sizes not being compatible). The SSD SCSI drives work okay though.
Anyway, from my reading up, as far as I can tell there's going to be absolutely nothing I can do with this unit in terms of programming and automating tasks apart from immediate mode operations without the keyboard and video card as even terminal emulation to send files to and from it requires initialising from within edit mode, then some file operations and conversions afterwards? Someone correct me if this is wrong?
I've done file transfers to/from the PC, but I can't remember if it required loading EDITOR or not. I don't think so... The one wacky thing about EDITOR is that you need the keyboard connected to exit, IIRC. Since we have the TL/1 compiler for the PC, with file transfer setup, you wouldn't even need the EDITOR. Writing scripts on he PC is much easier for sure. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
Corey Stup wrote:
Since we have the TL/1 compiler for the PC, with file transfer setup, you wouldn't even need the EDITOR. Writing scripts on he PC is much easier for sure.
Has this been made available for download anywhere Corey? I have read about the software and searched the web but never found any reference to it. It would be good to be able to right stuff while sitting on a train etc. Cheers Steve _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist
Yeh, i have the DOS TL/1 checker program, but havn't heard of a TL/1 compiler for the pc? I'd be interested to hear something more about that.. And AFAIK the terminal program for transferring files to/from PC requires the editor loading (press F4 for TERM IIRR) I havn't bothered doing any pc transfers at all, i develop all my programs solely on my 9100 setup as it is, and make regular backups to floppy disks (in case the hard drive craps out again! ) Andy Welburn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laptop" <mail@nessandsteve.plus.com> To: "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100 stuff wanted
Corey Stup wrote:
Since we have the TL/1 compiler for the PC, with file transfer setup, you wouldn't even need the EDITOR. Writing scripts on he PC is much easier for sure.
Has this been made available for download anywhere Corey? I have read about the software and searched the web but never found any reference to it. It would be good to be able to right stuff while sitting on a train etc.
Cheers Steve
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Andy Welburn wrote:
Yeh, i have the DOS TL/1 checker program, but havn't heard of a TL/1 compiler for the pc?
I'd be interested to hear something more about that.. I was mistaken, I was thinking of the "checker", my apologies.
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Hi all, [snip]
Did anyone ever get anywhere with using a standard AT keyboard?
I have been thinking about going down this road again recently, I don't actually have a need for an adapter anymore as i got the real keyboard eventually, but i was doing it for my own entertainment. Thing is, how far along is everyone else, and will anyone make the info available, or make a product available to buy at all? If the answer is no to all of that then i'll try make an adapter myself and then make the info on how to do it available online.. [snip]
Thanks, Martin. PS: Then I can start digging into the programming side of things and hopefully start to contribute to Andy :o)
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