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Fluke 9010A troubleshooter for sale or trading.
by Fabrizio Vasile 24 Apr '13

24 Apr '13

Hi, I'm selling a Fluke 9010A troubleshooter with RS232 option.Unit has some missing keys but it passes initial power test.Besides plastics are brown-yellowed and bottom is rusted (but you can scratch it with fine sandpaper). This are some pictures of the unit you will get: https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/259/fluke2.jpg https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/89/flukec.jpg . I'm really interested in trading it with a working 9000A-68000 POD more than selling it. Please send your offers to fabrizio.vasile(a)gmail.com Thanks. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Xeltek superpro cable?
by JJ 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

Can you attach a picture? Mine has a small round hole for the power plug. Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID David Shoemaker <davids(a)oz.net> wrote: >Doing a touch more digging looks like I fell prey to a classic blunder. > >I got involved in a land war in Asia. > >Oh no wait, it was the other one. I bought an eprom burner which uses a >dedicated ISA card with no card. Or as the hip kids call it "A >paperweight". > >David > >-----Original Message----- >From: techtoolslist-bounces(a)flippers.com >[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of David Shoemaker >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:04 PM >To: 'Technical Tools Mail List' >Subject: [Techtoolslist] Xeltek superpro cable? > >Anyone have one of these that can describe the cable to me? The unit >doesn't have a power supply connector so it must get power through the DB25 >connector and from what I can gather it connects to the parallel port of the >PC. But I don't know that it will provide enough power from that port alone. > > > >So anyone? > > > >Thanks, > >David > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Xeltek superpro cable?
by David Shoemaker 21 Apr '13

21 Apr '13

Anyone have one of these that can describe the cable to me? The unit doesn't have a power supply connector so it must get power through the DB25 connector and from what I can gather it connects to the parallel port of the PC. But I don't know that it will provide enough power from that port alone. So anyone? Thanks, David _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A PODS and 9020A Console for Sale
by Kevin Moore 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

For some reason the pictures did not come through. I am interested in the 68k only Kevin On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Stuart Banks <seafurious(a)hotmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > I have two Fluke 9010A/9020A PODS for sale: > > 9000A-68000 very good condition, previously enjoyed, passes > self-test, no broken pins asking US$375 + shipping > > Also, premium quality, gold plated 68K chip clips for available (limited > quantity) > > 9000A-8085 very good condition, previously enjoyed, passes > self-test, no broken pins asking US$175 + shipping > > *** Original manual included with both items. > > *** Note: I also have original manuals available for the 9000A-Z80, > -8080, and 80186 > > 9020A Production Troubleshooting Console w/IEEE-488 interface, very good, > 100% functional, will bundle this with working Fluke 9010A/9020A logic > probe, asking US$400 + shipping > > Pictures are attached. > > First come, First served. > > Stuart > > > Fluke 9010A PODS and 9020A Console for SaleView photos Download allYou > are invited to view Stuart's album. This album has 19 files. > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by JJ 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

I tried the prior and all my settings look good. Anyone have the cable pin outs? I would like to ohm out the cable. Thanks Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Rodger Boots <rlboots2(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Flow control is probably off or set wrong on computer end. Open up control >panel, system, hardware, com ports. Selects your com port and port >settings. Flow control should be XON/XOFF for software flow control or >Hardware for hardware flow control. Use whichever matches the programmer >setup. > >If you're using Hardware and it doesn't work your null modem cable may be >wired wrong. > >Good luck. > > >On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM, JJ <rugd2go(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> I tried to connect to my 9010a and laptop using xp and received a buffer >> overrun or overflow message on the 9010. Any ideas on what the cause might >> be? I was using a null cable. >> >> Justin >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >> >> Matthew Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: >> >> >Has anyone gotten Fluke FIDE to work in Windows 7? I've always just >> >used my old Win XP laptop with a USB/Serial adapter and it works great. >> > >> >On 4/12/2013 11:13 AM, Theron Troxel wrote: >> >> >> >> I found out what I was doing wrong. Didn't have a null modem cable >> adapter. Ended up ordering a serial cable adapter, which I knew I didn't >> want. Will try again with the correct part. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> >> To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:07 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> >> To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:50 PM >> >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a USB-to-RS232 >> cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my computer >> and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. >> >> >> >> Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it >> through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send >> the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, on >> the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: >> >> >> >> >> >> Starting process... >> >> WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included >> >> multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. >> >> It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. >> >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program Files >> (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). >> >> ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke >> FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. >> >> Permission denied >> >> Batch >> >> file processing failed. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Techtoolslist mailing list >> >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by JJ 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

I tried to connect to my 9010a and laptop using xp and received a buffer overrun or overflow message on the 9010. Any ideas on what the cause might be? I was using a null cable. Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Matthew Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: >Has anyone gotten Fluke FIDE to work in Windows 7? I've always just >used my old Win XP laptop with a USB/Serial adapter and it works great. > >On 4/12/2013 11:13 AM, Theron Troxel wrote: >> >> I found out what I was doing wrong. Didn't have a null modem cable adapter. Ended up ordering a serial cable adapter, which I knew I didn't want. Will try again with the correct part. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Theron Troxel <troxelone(a)yahoo.com> >> To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:50 PM >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE >> >> Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a USB-to-RS232 cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my computer and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. >> >> Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, on the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: >> >> >> Starting process... >> WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included >> multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. >> It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). >> ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. >> Permission denied >> Batch >> file processing failed. >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9010A Install with FIDE
by Theron Troxel 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Trying to get my fluke to respond to my computer. I have a USB-to-RS232 cord, and my computer recognize the cord. I went to settings on my computer and set it to com1 and matched everything to the computer and fluke. Wrote a simple program that just displays "test" and tried sending it through the Fluke FIDE software. The fluke never responds to when I send the program. I don't get any errors of any type on the fluke. However, on the Fluke FIDE I get the following error: Starting process... WARNING: Include file already exists. File may have been included multiple times, or two files with the exact same file name may exist. It is recommended that you give your files distictive file names. C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Scripts\test.9lc -> C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\test.9lc (exists). ERROR: Could not create batch file C:\Program Files (x86)\Fluke FIDE\Internal\9lc.bat. Permission denied Batch file processing failed. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Long shot but hoping
by David Shoemaker 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

I have a Midway grid board which is in constant reboots after it passes self-test. This uses the Athens board. Crusin' Exotica is also on the Athens board. I picked up an Exotica which is working fine. I did a rom swap Grid -> Crusin and get a mess of rom checksum errors. Digging around a touch I realized that they use an Altera Max EMP7128S at U29 as an address decoder. The Crusin boards appear to have a different memory map than the grid. I was able to rearrange some roms and combine four into two to get all but two roms to pass test. But it looks like there is no way to get the other two roms to come through. The Mame sources for this board imply that is should work but I was probing the chip select line (pin 11) at each of the sockets when the board did it's checksum on the problem roms. One socket triggers for just a moment and then the board fails the rom. The board has a 10 pin connector right next to the Altera chip, I am sure it's a jtag port. The Grid board has a hand written "AB" notation on the part id label which makes me believe they just flashed the board before they installed the roms. Problem is I have 0 experience with Altera parts and I don't have a clue how to try getting the code out (which could very well be protected). I am wondering if anyone here has any ideas on how to pull the code out on Grid and then reprogram the Exotica board. My only other alternative is to remove the chip from the exotica board and then pull the one from the grid and put onto the exotica. Doable if I am lucky. That's a really fine pitch 100 pin part. I tried arcade-service.com who say they work on these but they have been just shy of useless. David PS, oddly enough the crusin chips pass self-test on the grid board. I suspect they loaded both memory maps into the chip and then just select the correct one on boot using some configuration register. But as the grid didn't exist when they did the crusin boards.. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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RE: [Techtoolslist] Tech Tip - Protecting those Fluke POD UUT pins!
by David Shoemaker 09 Apr '13

09 Apr '13

What type of socket do you use? I have been using turned pin sockets. -----Original Message----- From: "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> Sent: ‎4/‎6/‎2013 10:53 AM To: "techtoolslist(a)flippers.com" <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Tech Tip - Protecting those Fluke POD UUT pins! Just corresponding with a fellow about his pod that had some broken pins on the UUT connector end and I told him how I deal with that - I use "Sacrificial" IC sockets on the pins so the IC socket legs can be damaged, but the POD connector is not at risk. Also, if a pin is broken off simply strip the lead close to the UUT connector end and run a short jumper to the sacrificial IC socket. Figured I should share this with you good folks in case the idea hadn't occurred to you... John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Tech Tip - Protecting those Fluke POD UUT pins!
by John Robertson 06 Apr '13

06 Apr '13

Just corresponding with a fellow about his pod that had some broken pins on the UUT connector end and I told him how I deal with that - I use "Sacrificial" IC sockets on the pins so the IC socket legs can be damaged, but the POD connector is not at risk. Also, if a pin is broken off simply strip the lead close to the UUT connector end and run a short jumper to the sacrificial IC socket. Figured I should share this with you good folks in case the idea hadn't occurred to you... John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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