May 2004 - TechToolsList - listserv.classicarcade.com

How do I read a TI 18S42 with a Data I/O 29b/2b?
by Franklin Bowen 12 May '04

12 May '04

How do I read a TI 18S42 with a Data I/O 29b/2b? I did a search through the device files and found no match. A search on Google found this article: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=leD3a.129288%24vm2.77578%40rwcrnsc54 So can I read this as a AMD 27S29, a device that the 2b supports? A couple unrelated questions: 1) What is the A/C (last) column in the device lists? 2) How do I tell the version number of my 2B? On everything else it's obvious. Is it the last 3 digits of the part number? So 950-0086-011 would mean I have a version 11? Thanks! -- Franklin Bowen (Franklin(a)Bowen.net) http://fmbbowen.com:39353 If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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US power issues...
by Andy Welburn 12 May '04

12 May '04

Hi all.. I have a few queries that might not be specifically on-topic, so I apologise in advance if this seems off-topic, if someone feels they can help and wish to do so off-list then please do, but some of my questions are videogame related, so its sortof on topic :) Basically I have to do a study on converting a UK videogame show to be used in America on tour. The show has already toured most of Europe over the past few years, and the show will now move to America in early 2005, to run for maybe several years traveling across the north American continent :) The show has approximately 200 working videogames, mainly home consoles and computers, Video Arcade Games do feature, but on a small scale, and the likelihood is that I will source the machines while I am over there. Ok, so having imported plenty of machines from the US already, there is a certain problem that crops up all too often, it's the 50/60hz cycle issue. Several things happen in video arcade games when they are imported form the states and used over here. Once the usual voltage has been stepped-down with a transformer, or when the existing transformers have been rewired to accept 240v, that's usually it. However, the fluorescent lights are another matter. The ballast transformers are designed for 60hz power systems, so when they run at 50hz, several things happen : - 1. Nothing... the thing works just fine for years. - 2. You get a sort of 'pulsing' that is hard to see, but its there... - 3. It works fine for 6 months, then one day it just shorts out and blows the main fuse in the house/cabinet etc... time to change it... - 4. It works fine then one day spontaneously combusts, spewing forth acrid smoke, sometimes blowing fuses. - 5. It continues to work fine, and then one day you smell burning... the transformer has gotten so hot that it continues to work, but the heat it has generated has burned the surrounding wooden housing, which itself catches light. The decision from now on is to replace them lock stock and barrel to prevent any of the above happening... Anyway, so, there is a 50/60hz problem.. from my limited research I have found that the difference in duty cycle means the transformer is working 17% faster, harder, hotter, and draws 17% more power etc... My question is, what happens when you turn the tables? The exhibition uses around 350 flourescent tubes installed in game 'pods' and I need to know if I sort the line voltage problem by stepping up, will I encounter the same 50/60 problem? If anyone can help with an answer to that, or has experience of the same, please get in touch.. The second question is about domestic TV sets, we have 150 or so of these too, my question is not about video standards, that is not an issue, my question is, would the different duty cycle stuff up the set if it relied on the duty cycle for timing at all? Is this a known issue? I have yet to get an answer from the manufacturer, usual story, nobody technical enough on hand to answer the question properly. Thanks for your endurance in reading this post :) Any help greatly appreciated. Andy Welburn www.andys-arcade.com If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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RE: RFC
by Chris Toseland 06 May '04

06 May '04

Thanks to everyone who commented and offered up ideas for additional features, all where gratefully received and it's interesting to get varied views on how folks use their test gear. I've made the changes to the IDE to reflect the requests for the hardware to revolve around the CPU It certainly makes more sense to have the memory maps on a per CPU level, I've updated the screenshots page to reflect this if anyone's interested. I've not done anything yet as far as ram bit masks are concerned. I was asked about building in functions similar to those of the Fluke -003 module, I don't have information on this module so if someone has a manual in electronic format I'd be grateful of a copy. Thanks for all the feedback Chris If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Fluke 9100 on Tron hardware
by Chris Loggans 04 May '04

04 May '04

Has anyone successfully used the Fluke system on MCR (Tron) hardware? When I try to get a signature from the ROM's, it comes back different every time. When I try to do a RUN UUT, the game self test runs and reports errors with all of the ROMs and occasionally the RAM. This is all happening on a known working board with the watchdog disabled. If I pull the test pod out and put the CPU back in, everything works fine. Oh, and I've also tried two different Z80 pods, with the same results. Any thoughts? Thanks, -Chris If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Data I/O 29B LogicPak: question and anyone want to scan manuals?
by Franklin Bowen 02 May '04

02 May '04

Data I/O 29B LogicPak: question and anyone want to scan manuals? I have manuals for 303A-006 and 303A-009 (I think that's right). Are they available on-line? If not, I would be happy to donate them to someone who would scan them and make them freely available. I tried my LogicPak and adapters and none worked. Most of them gave me an error 65 which is firmware checksum (or something like that). Anyone know what this means and how to resolve it? I got an ugly little surprise when I pulled the adapter off the LogicPak for the first time. A little cockroach started scuttling around in the adapter! I had to dismantle it to get the cockroach out. I hope that was the only one in there! -- Franklin Bowen (Franklin(a)Bowen.net) http://fmbbowen.com:39353 If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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Anyone Work on Slot Machines?
by kklopp 01 May '04

01 May '04

I'm looking for Slot Machine manuals/schematics. At this point I'm interested in any I don't have Specifically I'm looking for.... IGT Fortune I (video Poker) IGT S+ (good quality schematics as mine are too poor to read) Summit Autoslot (schematics) I have some stuff to trade if interested. Thanks, Kev If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo(a)flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx(a)yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx(a)yyy.com

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