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General message -> Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details
by John Robertson 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

A whole bunch of people might be finding themselves cut off due to AOL's spam policies...I've been having a lot of trouble with AOL lately due, it seems, to my email host company TELUS.NET which is our western TelCo... If anyone understands this message better I would appreciate it, as it is right now there does not appear to be anything I can do about it, but I shall attempt to ask AOL to allow anything from the site flippers.com to get through. Sheesh. John :-#(# At 07:19 AM 13/07/2003 -0700, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: >The original message was received at Sun, 13 Jul 2003 07:15:30 -0700 >from mail@localhost > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >Amplifone(a)aol.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >Eggwheatis(a)aol.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >Mhooks10(a)cs.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >bsl88k(a)netscape.net > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >coinop2000(a)aol.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >electronicamuse(a)aol.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >henry40(a)aol.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) >thomas43(a)aol.com > (reason: 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL > indicates this) > (expanded from: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/www.flippers.com/lists/techtoolslist) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to mailin-02.mx.aol.com.: ><<< 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL indicates this ><<< 550-server is generating high volumes of spam complaints from AOL's ><<< 550-member base. 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Based on AOL's Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at ><<< 550-http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html AOL may not accept further ><<< 550-e-mail transactions from this server or domain. For more information, ><<< 550 please visit http://postmaster.info.aol.com. >... while talking to mailin-01.mx.aol.com.: > >>> QUIT ><<< 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL indicates this ><<< 550-server is generating high volumes of spam complaints from AOL's ><<< 550-member base. Based on AOL's Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at ><<< 550-http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html AOL may not accept further ><<< 550-e-mail transactions from this server or domain. 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Based on AOL's Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at ><<< 550-http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html AOL may not accept further ><<< 550-e-mail transactions from this server or domain. For more information, ><<< 550 please visit http://postmaster.info.aol.com. >... while talking to mailin-03.mx.netscape.net.: > >>> QUIT ><<< 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL indicates this ><<< 550-server is generating high volumes of spam complaints from AOL's ><<< 550-member base. Based on AOL's Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at ><<< 550-http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html AOL may not accept further ><<< 550-e-mail transactions from this server or domain. For more information, ><<< 550 please visit http://postmaster.info.aol.com. >... while talking to mailin-01.mx.netscape.net.: > >>> QUIT ><<< 550-(RLY:B1) The information presently available to AOL indicates this ><<< 550-server is generating high volumes of spam complaints from AOL's ><<< 550-member base. Based on AOL's Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at ><<< 550-http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html AOL may not accept further ><<< 550-e-mail transactions from this server or domain. For more information, ><<< 550 please visit http://postmaster.info.aol.com. >554 5.0.0 bsl88k(a)netscape.net... 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Newbie: In search of Taito test gear info...
by Martin White 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

Hi guys, Just popped myself on the list at the recommendation of a friend that just sold me a Fluke 9010 - but that's for another day :-), so hi. Apologies if this has been asked or discussed before, but I believe there's no archive for the list, so I have to ask again. I have two bits of old arcade test equipment made by Taito in the space invaders era. One I've had for a few years now and I've worked out enough about it to be able to set it up as a general test rig (basically pretty much a jamma supergun thing), but I would dearly love to get in touch with someone who has documentation, pinouts, actual experience of using it etc so I can learn about the miriad of other buttons and inputs / outputs that it has. I've come across one or two people in the past but nothing ever comes of it. The kit can be seen on my webpage here: http://www.guddler.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 The other is not in my possesion yet having only won the auction about a week and a half ago, and I guess some of you may have seen the auction. It is a "Taito Test Tech" and can be seen here (similar in looks to an Atari Cat Box): http://www.guddler.co.uk/pics/taitotech1.jpg http://www.guddler.co.uk/pics/taitotech2.jpg http://www.guddler.co.uk/pics/taitotech3.jpg On this one I know absolutely nothing, and my first task would be to make up a power cable as it's missing. If anyone knows ANYTHING about this bit of kit, what it is, what it does, it's history, DOCUMENTATION(!!) I would love to hear about it. On or off list, whatever suits... Thanks for your time. For the most part I'm going to go back to listening and learning mode now :O) Martin. PS: Those links are probably only good for a few days as I'm loosing my webspace sometime this coming week.

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Interesting observation, question
by James S. Bright 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

I have noticed on these Zoo keeper/Qix boards (BTW, the second level of Dante's hell) and I've run into now three boards that have had their 12V line shorted to ground. In all cases, it's been due to the tant capacitors. I've got some new ones in stock, yet in one case merely having that cap installed (new cap) will cause the short. That's the general observation. The question part comes down to this: is this pretty common for tant capacitors in general? Do they tend to fail short? Since they're used only to cut down on noise in this application (4116 chips), I can run the board just fine without them. Although if there were designed to run with them installed, I'd like to have them installed. Just curious. I've updated my notes to read "check tant capacitors on 12V short" ... :) --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home

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Fluke pods and 6532's
by Phil Morris 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

The 6532 in my Z80 pod recently failed. I know for certain that it's the 6532 as I swapped out the same IC from my 6502 pod into the Z80 pod and *it* then worked just fine (likewise putting the suspect 6532 from the Z80 pod into the 6502 caused said pod to fail with a timeout error). I obtained a replacement 6532 from a UK supplier (Dial electronics). This had the exact same markings as the original 6532, ie it was marked as: R6532AP R6532-13 Trouble is, it didn't work. So, thinking the original must have been faulty, I obtained another 6532 from Dial but marked as: R6532P R6532-11 but that didn't work either. Now before I get hold of yet another replacement from Dial, I'm curious to know whether these chips are particularly prone to failure. Of course we don't know how Dial's stock may have been handled prior to them obtaining it (I'll say here that I've never had a problem with them in the past - all their supplied parts have been fine so this isn't a dig at them!). Also, how crucial is the type of 6532? I mean, how does a 6532AP differ from a 6532P for example? Thanks, Phil

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Re: Fluke pods and 6532's
by Eggwheatis＠aol.com 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

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Binary display on fluke
by James S. Bright 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

I did not see a way to do this. Maybe I missed it? You can output a register in hex or decimal. Is there a binary method? Would be helpful for testing individual bits. I wrote a routine that does this manually, but it's surprisingly slow ;) --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home

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Loading a compiled program; Run UUT
by James S. Bright 10 Jul '03

10 Jul '03

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Re: Memory tester
by John Robertson 08 Jul '03

08 Jul '03

Hi! (Carrying this back to the mail list)...I can see a pretty simple design to test the speed of 5101's as a useful tool in our tool kits...other Static Ram as well. Perhaps an add-on for a standard RAM tester that a number of folks have? What RAM would people like to test? RAM test equipment that I have: SIMCHECK with the RamCheck option StarTek DT-90 Dram Tester (4164/41256) that has a dial for the speed test (kit -schematics on ftp site) E-Comms BUGTRAP Model 8000 that tests 4116, 2118, 4164, 41256, 41128, 411000, 4416, 4464, and 44256. Speed tests from 250ns down to 80ns. I am thinking of modifying the Bugtrap as it does test 4 bit DRAM to do the 5101's - but not sure how to do that at the moment. It's been a LONG time since I last looked at the design difference between Static and Dynamic RAM Addressing issues. Probably take me a couple of hours to glom a small PCB interface then never finish the thing once it works... John :-#)# At 11:04 AM 07/07/2003 -0300, pc2jamma wrote: >It's not so difficult to make one based on Microcontroller technology. >I'll appreciate if you or someone else what to start to talk about it. I >have the project in my mind, but I don't know how to program this devices. How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL To do either you send email to "MajorDomo(a)flippers.com" and in the body you state either "Subscribe techtoolslist" or "Unsubscribe techtoolslist", note that the Subject is "" (Blank)... FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/

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Curious about interest level
by James S. Bright 08 Jul '03

08 Jul '03

Just curious about the level of interest in an updated 9010A compiler. There are improvements that could be made (similar to what the rice compiler did) that might make certain scripts easier. Oh I dunno... Maybe a simple add operator :) Not that I'm looking to build a full blown compiler with parser, yadda yadda ya. Just wondering what the interest might be. JB --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home

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Executing z80 code on the Fluke
by James S. Bright 07 Jul '03

07 Jul '03

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