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RE: Z80 pods, 2 versions...
by Keith, Brendan 15 Mar '00

15 Mar '00

So you're buying up more pods and accessories than you need, then ebaying them to maximize your profit, thus taking them off the market except to the most well-heeled buyers, whether hobbyist or not? Brendan Keith brendan.keith(a)wilcom.com > ---------- > From: John Robertson[SMTP:jrr@flippers.com] > > Unfortunatly I have a shop to support, not just a hobby...so I tend to > eBay > the things...I have three Z80 pods, five probes, and a 8048 pod > currently...Last Z80 sold for $183US, and last probe I got $125 (including > > postage)...plus I have one 9010A base with RS-232 (tested)... > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: Z80 pods, 2 versions...
by Keith, Brendan 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

If you're buying "collection"s of pods, does that then mean that you're reselling them? Share the wealth, John, share the wealth. Brendan Keith brendan.keith(a)wilcom.com > ---------- > From: John Robertson[SMTP:jrr@flippers.com] > > In a collection of Z80 pods that I bought recently there was a Z80A pod, > opening it up reveled what looked like a standard Z80 with a slightly > different revision number on the hardware, and the eprom had a different > revision number. To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: Does anyone have any HP5006A info?
by James Marous 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

No hurry on getting it back... James -----Original Message----- From: Jon Raiford [mailto:raiford@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:43 PM To: TechToolsList(a)flippers.com Subject: Re: Does anyone have any HP5006A info? I have gotten about 95% of the manual scanned in for the HP5006A, but I have slowed down recently (I am using the copier and scanner from work). I decided to go ahead and send what I have to spies so people can see/use it now, as I'm not sure when my time will free up enough to finish scanning the schematics and polish it up. If you are interested, here is a link to the 10.5 Meg pdf file: "ftp://www.spies.com/incoming/HP5006A.PDF". James: Let me know if you are in a rush to get the original back and I'll force myself to take the time to finish this up. Jon To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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Re: WTT: Z80 pods for 6502 or 6809
by Peter Fyfe 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

I vaguely remember from poking around the inside of a 6502 (or from the manual) that a 6800 can be converted to a 6502. Does anybody know for sure?? Peter -----Original Message----- From: Thomas43(a)aol.com <Thomas43(a)aol.com> To: TechToolsList(a)flippers.com <TechToolsList(a)flippers.com> Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:34 PM Subject: Re: WTT: Z80 pods for 6502 or 6809 > >In a message dated 2/9/00 1:26:05 PM, jrr(a)flippers.com writes: > ><< Z80 seems more common than 6502 or 6809...I was thinking of modifying a >dud >pod (8048) to become a 6802...a bit of hack wiring, but lots of room inside! > >John :-##) >> > >I remember someone (John?) talking about modifying one pod to another? Are >any of these pods easily modified to 6809 or 6502? > >Scott > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the > message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other > questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com. > >

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Z80 pods, 2 versions...
by John Robertson 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

In a collection of Z80 pods that I bought recently there was a Z80A pod, opening it up reveled what looked like a standard Z80 with a slightly different revision number on the hardware, and the eprom had a different revision number. The CPU chip was the same speed, and I don't recall any other changes. If anyone is interested I will dig some more and post here the hardware revisions. If anyone is interested in the code, it is pretty small (only 2K unzipped), would folks mind if I just posted it? That would be easiest... John :-#)# John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: Z80 pods, 2 versions...
by Chris Loggans 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

>Make that 3 different pods.. I have a Z80QT pod. QT=quicktest, must use >some specialized software for a 9100A? I have no idea what the >differences >are, but I have a Z80QT manual somewhere, Chris Loggans may have it. Actually, I think I do have it. I'll check tonight and see if I can find out what the differences are. -Chris To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: DATA I/O 29B
by mike_ranger＠dofasco.ca 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

Opps. I meant to say I'm going to Pittsburgh on a business trip. Any Places to buy test equipment? > -----Original Message----- > From: mike_ranger(a)dofasco.ca [SMTP:mike_ranger@dofasco.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 7:45 AM > To: TechToolsList(a)flippers.com > Subject: RE: DATA I/O 29B > > > [Ranger Mike] > I have never, ever had a problem selecting code 10 and sending down > net rom images, and I've done quite a few! Including 4 bit bi-polars. I > do, > however have a problem using the newer, more friendly version of prom > link. > It seems to hang on a file transfer, where the old version works fine. > > Mike > > P.S. Going to Chicago in a few weeks, any one know of a tech tool > surplus place to drop by? Looking for a desoldering iron (weller, or > pace). > > > > > > > > This incompatibility always bugged me and it's the reason I got a > > Needham's > > PB-10. The Data I/O translation format 10 'Binary' is NOT raw binary it > > can't > > use the binaries that are found on the web. From the Data I/O manual: > > > > "Binary Transfer, Code 10 > > Data transfer in the Binary format consists of a stream of 8-bit data > > words > > preceeded by a byte count and followed by a sum-check. The Binary format > > does not have addresses." > > > > The files you get from the net are just data, no framing information. > I've > > never found a way to use these with a 29B. What you CAN try is use the > > PB-10 > > software (free download) to translate the binary to ASCII-HEX then > upload > > the converted file using Translation Code 50 (ASCII-HEX SPACE). It's > been > > years since I tried this but I seem to remember it was a easy > work-around. > > > > > > David Fish "We want...Information. > > INFORMATION > > Melrose, MA USA You won't get it! > > fishd(a)tiac.net By hook or by crook we will" > > dfish(a)bev.etn.com _The Prisoner_ > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in > > the > > message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct > other > > questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: Data I/O 29B promlink #
by mike_ranger＠dofasco.ca 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

> While we're on the subject, does Promlink run on a Pentium or > equivalent. I've had no luck so far, it crashes immediately > with an "Error 11 occurred in module MAIN at address 2EBE:0067". > I've tried it on several computers PII-MMX, K6 and a PIII. > Anyone? > [Ranger Mike] I've had the same error running the newer version. The old version runs fine. I've since gotten a 486 laptop for the shop, so I've stopped using the pentium. But then again, i could not get the newer version to send files properly. Mike To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: Data I/O 29B promlink #
by Fish, David 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

John wrote: > The version of Promlink that I have that supports #16 (Raw > Binary) is 6R10. > That is "Revision 6 point 10", I am trying the process for > designating > decimals in resistors and capacitors, I kinda like using the > letter as the > break, much clearer and less likely to miss the decimal... Interesting! I just checked the version of Promlink (6R00) that and we run here at work and it accepts Translation Code 16. I never even realized this existed, it's not mentioned in any of my manuals. I'll check my programmer tonight to see if it accepts it. If my 29B main unit doesn't I'll be looking for a newer version of the firmware too. While we're on the subject, does Promlink run on a Pentium or equivalent. I've had no luck so far, it crashes immediately with an "Error 11 occurred in module MAIN at address 2EBE:0067". I've tried it on several computers PII-MMX, K6 and a PIII. Anyone? Dave To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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RE: DATA I/O 29B
by mike_ranger＠dofasco.ca 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

[Ranger Mike] I have never, ever had a problem selecting code 10 and sending down net rom images, and I've done quite a few! Including 4 bit bi-polars. I do, however have a problem using the newer, more friendly version of prom link. It seems to hang on a file transfer, where the old version works fine. Mike P.S. Going to Chicago in a few weeks, any one know of a tech tool surplus place to drop by? Looking for a desoldering iron (weller, or pace). > > > > This incompatibility always bugged me and it's the reason I got a > Needham's > PB-10. The Data I/O translation format 10 'Binary' is NOT raw binary it > can't > use the binaries that are found on the web. From the Data I/O manual: > > "Binary Transfer, Code 10 > Data transfer in the Binary format consists of a stream of 8-bit data > words > preceeded by a byte count and followed by a sum-check. The Binary format > does not have addresses." > > The files you get from the net are just data, no framing information. I've > never found a way to use these with a 29B. What you CAN try is use the > PB-10 > software (free download) to translate the binary to ASCII-HEX then upload > the converted file using Translation Code 50 (ASCII-HEX SPACE). It's been > years since I tried this but I seem to remember it was a easy work-around. > > > David Fish "We want...Information. > INFORMATION > Melrose, MA USA You won't get it! > fishd(a)tiac.net By hook or by crook we will" > dfish(a)bev.etn.com _The Prisoner_ > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from techtoolslist, send a message with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in > the > message body to: techtoolslist-request(a)flippers.com. Please direct other > questions, comments, or problems to jrr(a)flippers.com.

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