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Re: [Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard
by teeray 04 Oct '17

04 Oct '17

The link is to a JFIF file, not a jpeg file Thanks -----Original Message----- >From: Ian Eure <ian(a)retrospec.tv> >Sent: Oct 4, 2017 1:07 AM >To: jrr(a)flippers.com, Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard > >On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:21 PM, John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2017/10/03 5:05 PM, Ian Eure wrote: >>> I finally tracked down a Programmer’s Keyboard for my 9100. I don’t >>> know how widely it’s known, but there were two different versions >>> of the keyboard. The only photos I’ve seen are the earlier model, >>> which meant that I almost let this one slip away. It was on eBay, new >>> old stock, for $36 shipped! >>> >>> All the info is in the manuals, if you look. I had always wondered >>> why the keyboard illustrations in the Programmer’s Manual didn’t match >>> the photos of the keyboard I’d seen. It’s because I read scans of a >>> later (1991) printing, which has illustrations of the later revision >>> of the keyboard. I haven’t seen a 1988 printing, but I bet it shows >>> the earlier keyboard layout. >>> >>> The various 9100 service manuals list different part numbers: >>> >>> 9100A Supplemental Parts List (May 1988), fig. 5-21, p. 5-53 >>> ---- >>> Lists p/n 5-64995-131. This seems to be the more common version of >>> the keyboard. It has a block of (mostly) 2u keys on the far right, >>> angled RETURN key, and arrows by the SHIFT and RETURN keys. >>> >>> Photo: https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png >> Broken link. > >Here’s what I was trying to share: http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6456.0… > >I’d be interested to know what’s inside one of these, maybe it uses normal switches and could be used to reproduce one. >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive
by teeray 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Yes that is a single sided drive HFD305S I'm looking for a double sided drive. such as HFD305D Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Rodger Boots Sent: Oct 2, 2017 6:30 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List , teeray Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive Never heard of such a thing, BUT there IS one being sold on eBay in France. Item # 292272969542. On Oct 2, 2017 8:15 PM, "teeray" <[1]teeray(a)earthlink.net> wrote: Thanks, but I need a 3inch compact floppy drive not a 3 half. it uses 3 inch CF2 Floppy disk. >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive > >Last new 3.5 dsdd drives I ordered came from Jameco. > >>On 10/2/2017 6:55 PM, teeray wrote: >> Anyone have a source for a double sided 3 inch compact floppy drive like the Hitachi HFD305D >> I think some were used in the later models of Amstrad computers. >> >> Anyone willing to sell one ? Looking for a Double Sided drive. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> [2]Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> [3]https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: [4]ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: [5]http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list [6]Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com [7]https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: [8]ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: [9]http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ References 1. mailto:teeray@earthlink.net 2. mailto:Techtoolslist@flippers.com 3. https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist 4. ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment 5. http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ 6. mailto:Techtoolslist@flippers.com 7. https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist 8. ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment 9. http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive
by Rodger Boots 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Never heard of such a thing, BUT there IS one being sold on eBay in France. Item # 292272969542. On Oct 2, 2017 8:15 PM, "teeray" <teeray(a)earthlink.net> wrote: Thanks, but I need a 3inch compact floppy drive not a 3 half. it uses 3 inch CF2 Floppy disk. >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive > >Last new 3.5 dsdd drives I ordered came from Jameco. > >>On 10/2/2017 6:55 PM, teeray wrote: >> Anyone have a source for a double sided 3 inch compact floppy drive like the Hitachi HFD305D >> I think some were used in the later models of Amstrad computers. >> >> Anyone willing to sell one ? Looking for a Double Sided drive. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive
by teeray 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Thanks, but I need a 3inch compact floppy drive not a 3 half. it uses 3 inch CF2 Floppy disk. >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive > >Last new 3.5 dsdd drives I ordered came from Jameco. > >>On 10/2/2017 6:55 PM, teeray wrote: >> Anyone have a source for a double sided 3 inch compact floppy drive like the Hitachi HFD305D >> I think some were used in the later models of Amstrad computers. >> >> Anyone willing to sell one ? Looking for a Double Sided drive. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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source for a 3 inch compact floppy drive
by teeray 02 Oct '17

02 Oct '17

Anyone have a source for a double sided 3 inch compact floppy drive like the Hitachi HFD305D I think some were used in the later models of Amstrad computers. Anyone willing to sell one ? Looking for a Double Sided drive. Thanks _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Heathkit Audio Analyzer IM-48 manual
by John Robertson 02 Oct '17

02 Oct '17

I am working on some old tube amps for jukeboxes and decided to revive my ancient IM-48 Audio Analyzer (I have a shrill distortion to track down), but the documentation I had was ghastly. So I hunted around on line and found bits and pieces available for download here and there and have now built up a manual that is actually useful. If that is of use to anyone it is now up on the FTP site... ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment/Heathkit John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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9100 BBS
by Ian Eure 01 Oct '17

01 Oct '17

I was reading the programmer’s manual, and saw that Fluke used to have a subscription BBS you could dial into with your 9100 to exchange files. I thought this was pretty neat. I figure the answer is no, but just curious if anyone here was ever on it. I called the phone number just for fun. It still goes to Fluke, but obviously the BBS is long gone. I thought it was nice that the last four digits of the number were 9-1-0-0. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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WTB: Clock module
by Ian Eure 29 Sep '17

29 Sep '17

I’m looking for a cheap clock module for parts. 9000 or 9100, working or not. Let me know if you have one you’d part with. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Slowing down a Fluke Z80 pod?
by David Gersic 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

This is going to seem like a strange thing to want, but is it possible to slow down a Z80 pod? I have a 9010 and the Z80 pod for it. As far as I know, both are working fine. I don't have anything with a Z80 in it to test to prove that. What I picked these up for is to use with a Signetics 2650 adapter (http://www.arcades.plus.com/s2650_fluke_adapter.htm) on Zaccaria boards. It seems like this should work, but in practice it's very unreliable. Test reading data from ROM on a known working board, sometimes I get correct data, most of the time I get random garbage. If I read a byte from the same address 10 times, maybe one time will be correct. Test RAM, it'll go a few bytes in to the test, then "fail". If I loop on that, it'll eventually pass, then fail a byte or two later. This seems to be essentially the same symptom as displayed by the ROM reading test. The adapter board is based on the old Fluke "Troubleshooter" article from 1983. As far as I can see, the board is doing what it's supposed to do, moving signals from the Z80 to where the 2650 expects them to be. So what I'm thinking is that the Z80, running at a faster clock speed than the 2650, is just over-running what a board designed for a slower processor can deliver. Is it possible to slow down the clock speed on the Z80 pod? _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Slowing down a Fluke Z80 pod?
by William Stillwell 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

Check you clock signal on a scope, does the board have a two speed clock when access slow ram? Everything I have random read issues it's always a buggured clock.. it maybe good enough for the 2650 but not for the z80 On Sep 17, 2017 10:47 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2(a)gmail.com> wrote: It may be easier to speed up the board....cool the memory you're trying to test. Might just give you enough timing-wise to see where the hard failures are. On Sep 17, 2017 6:24 PM, "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > On 2017/09/17 4:23 PM, John Robertson wrote: > >> On 2017/09/17 9:38 AM, David Gersic wrote: >> >>> This is going to seem like a strange thing to want, but is it possible >>> to slow >>> down a Z80 pod? >>> >>> I have a 9010 and the Z80 pod for it. As far as I know, both are working >>> fine. >>> I don't have anything with a Z80 in it to test to prove that. >>> >>> What I picked these up for is to use with a Signetics 2650 adapter >>> (http://www.arcades.plus.com/s2650_fluke_adapter.htm) on Zaccaria >>> boards. It >>> seems like this should work, but in practice it's very unreliable. >>> >>> Test reading data from ROM on a known working board, sometimes I get >>> correct >>> data, most of the time I get random garbage. If I read a byte from the >>> same >>> address 10 times, maybe one time will be correct. >>> >>> Test RAM, it'll go a few bytes in to the test, then "fail". If I loop on >>> that, >>> it'll eventually pass, then fail a byte or two later. This seems to be >>> essentially the same symptom as displayed by the ROM reading test. >>> >>> The adapter board is based on the old Fluke "Troubleshooter" article from >>> 1983. As far as I can see, the board is doing what it's supposed to do, >>> moving >>> signals from the Z80 to where the 2650 expects them to be. >>> >>> So what I'm thinking is that the Z80, running at a faster clock speed >>> than the >>> 2650, is just over-running what a board designed for a slower processor >>> can >>> deliver. Is it possible to slow down the clock speed on the Z80 pod? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>> >>> Silly question, but have you tried this adapter on a known-to-be-good >> 2650 board? Your UUT may be defective such that you get those results >> (ducking). >> >> John :-#)# >> >> Crap, you DID say KNOW TO BE WORKING 2650 board. !@#$. > > Just ignore me. > > John :-#(# > > -- > How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mail > man/listinfo/techtoolslist > > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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