Re: [Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard
The link is to a JFIF file, not a jpeg file Thanks -----Original Message-----
From: Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv> Sent: Oct 4, 2017 1:07 AM To: jrr@flippers.com, Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard
On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:21 PM, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
On 2017/10/03 5:05 PM, Ian Eure wrote: I finally tracked down a Programmer’s Keyboard for my 9100. I don’t know how widely it’s known, but there were two different versions of the keyboard. The only photos I’ve seen are the earlier model, which meant that I almost let this one slip away. It was on eBay, new old stock, for $36 shipped!
All the info is in the manuals, if you look. I had always wondered why the keyboard illustrations in the Programmer’s Manual didn’t match the photos of the keyboard I’d seen. It’s because I read scans of a later (1991) printing, which has illustrations of the later revision of the keyboard. I haven’t seen a 1988 printing, but I bet it shows the earlier keyboard layout.
The various 9100 service manuals list different part numbers:
9100A Supplemental Parts List (May 1988), fig. 5-21, p. 5-53 ---- Lists p/n 5-64995-131. This seems to be the more common version of the keyboard. It has a block of (mostly) 2u keys on the far right, angled RETURN key, and arrows by the SHIFT and RETURN keys.
Photo: https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png Broken link.
Here’s what I was trying to share: http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6456.0;...
I’d be interested to know what’s inside one of these, maybe it uses normal switches and could be used to reproduce one. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
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A member sent me a Fluke Keyboard model # 757120 to help me finish development of the Fluke Keyboard Emulator ( which will just be using a Pi + Python Script, you will need a Genovation Keypad programmed for the extra keys , Ian i saw the one you bought on ebay, it looked like a "standard" modified AT keyboard, now that i look at it closer, i see what the did with the keys on that. i wonder if you could just "dump" the eeprom or the chip and we can program it to a standard IBM AT keyboard? Link to the model # 757120 Keyboard, and the keyboard Ian purchased on ebay. https://photos.app.goo.gl/BdRrWO04YLoxJwrg2 William Stillwell Board Member - Inspiration labs, Inc. a 501c3 organization Board Member - West Central Florida Group, Inc. a 501c3 organization Board Member & Co-Founder - Byte Amusement Group // Free Play Florida Arcade & Pinball Show a 501c3 organization Board Member - Clearwater Amateur Radio Society On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:20 PM, teeray <teeray@earthlink.net> wrote:
The link is to a JFIF file, not a jpeg file Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv> Sent: Oct 4, 2017 1:07 AM To: jrr@flippers.com, Technical Tools Mail List < techtoolslist@flippers.com> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] 9100FT Programmer’s Keyboard
On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:21 PM, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
On 2017/10/03 5:05 PM, Ian Eure wrote: I finally tracked down a Programmer’s Keyboard for my 9100. I don’t know how widely it’s known, but there were two different versions of the keyboard. The only photos I’ve seen are the earlier model, which meant that I almost let this one slip away. It was on eBay, new old stock, for $36 shipped!
All the info is in the manuals, if you look. I had always wondered why the keyboard illustrations in the Programmer’s Manual didn’t match the photos of the keyboard I’d seen. It’s because I read scans of a later (1991) printing, which has illustrations of the later revision of the keyboard. I haven’t seen a 1988 printing, but I bet it shows the earlier keyboard layout.
The various 9100 service manuals list different part numbers:
9100A Supplemental Parts List (May 1988), fig. 5-21, p. 5-53 ---- Lists p/n 5-64995-131. This seems to be the more common version of the keyboard. It has a block of (mostly) 2u keys on the far right, angled RETURN key, and arrows by the SHIFT and RETURN keys.
Photo: https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png Broken link.
Here’s what I was trying to share: http://www.dragonslairfans. com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6456.0;attach=11160
I’d be interested to know what’s inside one of these, maybe it uses normal switches and could be used to reproduce one. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
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William Stillwell writes:
A member sent me a Fluke Keyboard model # 757120 to help me finish development of the Fluke Keyboard Emulator ( which will just be using a Pi + Python Script, you will need a Genovation Keypad programmed for the extra keys
Interested to see how this turns out. It will certainly be good to have a more widely available solution.
Ian i saw the one you bought on ebay, it looked like a "standard" modified AT keyboard, now that i look at it closer, i see what the did with the keys on that. i wonder if you could just "dump" the eeprom or the chip and we can program it to a standard IBM AT keyboard?
I don’t think it would work, since the hardware is too different. Whatever code is on the EPROM, it’s interfacing with the capacitive switch controller, not scanning the key matrix directly like you would with an electric switches. It might work if you got another KeyTronics keyboard and replaced its ROM with the Fluke one.
Link to the model # 757120 Keyboard, and the keyboard Ian purchased on ebay.
Appreciate the photos. Is there any chance of getting a peek inside the 757120 keyboard? If it has mechanical switches and an 8031, and an EPROM, that’s your best bet for a full reproduction keyboard. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
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