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RE: Fluke T-shooters
by Clay Cowgill 11 Jan '00

11 Jan '00

> Since we're on the topic of the rs-232 port on the 9010... > has anyone looked > into whether there is a terminal mode available so we could > write a pc based > front-end for the t-shooter?? The pc software side would be > a breeze if > that sort of mode is already available. However, if we had to write a > program on the 9010 to translate the commands.... that might > get a little > hairy. Any thoughts? The 9010 has a software compiler and downloader that runs on a PC with a serial port connection. You can write programs that run on the 9010 stand-alone, or you can write stuff that uses the PC as a more verbose host for doing automated test scripts and examining the results with user interaction. (The idea was to have the PC be something of an "engineer in a box" that lets technicians carry out complex debugging tasks in short time. Sort of a manually-programmed expert system for debugging a board.) A sample session might go like: PC: Automatically tests RAM and ROM and CPU bus and decides all is well. PC: "Place test probe on pin 2 of IC 2M (74LS00) and press 'enter'" Fluke: *beep* (displays signature of 2AF4) PC: Looks at 2AF4, decides it's right, and directs the trouble shooting to the next step. PC: "Place test probe on pin 6 of IC 3H (74LS393) and press 'enter'" Fluke: *beep* (displays signature of 333F) PC: Decides that that signature is wrong, and based on the program knows that the only thing that could be wrong is a certain IC. The PC displays "IC 1B (74LS02) is defective and needs to be replaced." (obviously it takes more steps than that, but you get the idea.) There are some programs like this floating around for old arade games (I remember Pole Position in particular). -Clay

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RE: Fluke T-shooters
by Chris Loggans 06 Jan '00

06 Jan '00

>I have no idea what the Clock Mod. is, and the only useful >pod there is the Z80, it is worth $100+US...if working... The Clock Module is used for signature analysis. It has Start, Stop, Clock, Enable and Ground lines on it. I'm not sure that it can be used on the 9010 though, I'll have to check my documentation tonight. I have one on my 9100 and it goes to a dedicated connector which I don't remember seeing on the 9010. -Chris

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RE: Fluke T-shooters
by James Marous 06 Jan '00

06 Jan '00

Since we're on the topic of the rs-232 port on the 9010... has anyone looked into whether there is a terminal mode available so we could write a pc based front-end for the t-shooter?? The pc software side would be a breeze if that sort of mode is already available. However, if we had to write a program on the 9010 to translate the commands.... that might get a little hairy. Any thoughts? James -----Original Message----- From: John Robertson [mailto:jrr@flippers.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 9:39 PM To: Kev; techtoolslist(a)flippers.com Subject: Re: Fluke T-shooters The RS-232 is bi-directional. You can store and retrieve test patterns. Haven't tried it yet... John :-#)# At 01:37 PM 1/5/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Hey John! > > > > The list isn't dead, just not very busy...perhaps the need is not so >great > > as I thought... > > To tell if a Fluke has an RS-232 port, look on the rear, it looks like the > > old AT style serial post, a DB-25 jack with male pins. As for software, it > > seems that it just puts out simple ASCII text, and this can be saved in a > > text doc. > >Well given the discussion of a Raster list who knows what the demand is? > >So, the 232 is only for output? I thought you could create & store test >patterns offline? > > >Kev >mowerman(a)erols.com >http://www.erols.com/mowerman John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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RE: Fluke T-shooters
by James Marous 06 Jan '00

06 Jan '00

I think the 9010 uses a Z80, but I am not sure what you are asking. The 9010 has its own internal language, something one step above assembly. According to the manuals, there are routines to send and receive files via the serial port, but I am trying to find some way to emulate keyboard commands via the serial port without having to resort to downloading an entire program to the Fluke. Using something like LabWindows/CVI you could set up a GUI front end on the pc to command the 9010 (Theoretically) and, taken to the next step, use the pc to send/receive series of commands and results, all in theory of course. James ps, Kev, check out my Tech page, there is a model of a replacement roller-controller for the dedicated Major Havoc, should have the first prototype in a week or so. Got tired of looking for one, so I decided to just build one :) -----Original Message----- From: Kev [mailto:KKlopp@EROLS.COM] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:42 AM To: James Marous Cc: techtoolslist(a)flippers.com Subject: Re: Fluke T-shooters What CPU is inside the 9010 to run the computer? > Since we're on the topic of the rs-232 port on the 9010... has anyone looked > into whether there is a terminal mode available so we could write a pc based > front-end for the t-shooter?? The pc software side would be a breeze if > that sort of mode is already available. However, if we had to write a > program on the 9010 to translate the commands.... that might get a little > hairy. Any thoughts? Kev mowerman(a)erols.com http://www.erols.com/mowerman

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Re: Fluke T-shooters
by Peter Fyfe 06 Jan '00

06 Jan '00

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Re: Fluke T-shooters
by John Robertson 06 Jan '00

06 Jan '00

The RS-232 is bi-directional. You can store and retrieve test patterns. Haven't tried it yet... John :-#)# At 01:37 PM 1/5/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Hey John! > > > > The list isn't dead, just not very busy...perhaps the need is not so >great > > as I thought... > > To tell if a Fluke has an RS-232 port, look on the rear, it looks like the > > old AT style serial post, a DB-25 jack with male pins. As for software, it > > seems that it just puts out simple ASCII text, and this can be saved in a > > text doc. > >Well given the discussion of a Raster list who knows what the demand is? > >So, the 232 is only for output? I thought you could create & store test >patterns offline? > > >Kev >mowerman(a)erols.com >http://www.erols.com/mowerman John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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Re: Fluke T-shooters
by John Robertson 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

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Fluke T-shooters
by Kev 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

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Fluke 9010 accessories...
by John Robertson 29 Dec '99

29 Dec '99

I just got in my second Fluke 9010A (ver 3 software), and packed with it was some interesting extension sockets. These have some prototyping area on a circuit board on the bottom, and it will plug in-between the UUT CPU socket and the pod plug. Part number 9000A 7201. Fair enough, looks useful for probing, BUT also included was one of these extension plug/sockets with a circuit built in (factory) with an identification of "CKT 1 REV D", and on the top side of the circuit board a couple of ICs ICM72091PA, and 74H00 with the identification of "CKT 2 ASSY 612127". Looks like it might be some sort of reset board. Anyone know for sure? Let's see, pin 20 is ground, pin 40 looks like it is 5VDC, there is what looks like a transistor seems to turn on the Vcc to the power to the 74H00...hmmm...AND there are three jumper plugs. All in the space one CPU wide by about three CPU's high. (8 bit CPUs) John :-#)# John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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Re: Fluke Pods?
by ayeckley 29 Dec '99

29 Dec '99

>Try www.naptech.com. Email sales for a quote. $125 for the 6502 pod >and I'm pretty sure they have other pods as well.. :-) I got my 8080 pod from them a couple of months ago - they didn't have any 6502 pods. How long ago did they quote that price to you? I've had a hard time getting pods at "reasonable" prices. I consider $495 for a 6502 pod unreasonable (one quote I got). Alex http://home.neo.lrun.com/ayeckle/ ayeckley(a)neo.lrun.com (Play) yecklea(a)diebold.com (Work)

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