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Re: Signature Analyzers
by Mark Shostak 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

> Is it true that the it reports the same signature as a cat box? Yes, the HP reports the same signatures as the CAT box. However, the HP is a lot nicer to use. I have both and for SA I use the HP over the CAT. It has better probes, a bigger display, it's like a bench meter in that you can read it while your working, on the CAT, the display is oriented up, towards the ceiling, so you can't just glance over at it to read the sig. -Mark

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Fluke 9010
by Chris Loggans 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

Since I already have one, I thought I'd offer this one up here. I came across another Fluke 9010 the other day and wondered if anyone here was interested. This one is complete with the hard to find probe and even includes some tapes, manuals and a custom Fluke hardshell case to carry it in. The only thing that it doesn't have is the serial port option. If anyone is interested, I'm open to offers. (cash or video game parts) Thanks, -Chris

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RE: Signature Analyzers
by James Marous 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

For some dumb reason I have several of them, I have the HP 5004 and 5006, a bug trap sig analyzer and a Kurz Kasch model. All are basically about the same, at least as much as I use them. Honestly, I find I seldom use signature analysis. About the only time it really comes in handy is working on vector mathboxes. But it's nice to have it for well documented projects, like the cinematronics boards. James -----Original Message----- From: Jon Raiford [mailto:raiford@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:10 AM To: Tech Tools List Subject: Signature Analyzers I have decided that I should get a Sig. Analyzer. What is the one to get? I keep seeing people talk about the HP 5004A, is that was I should be targeting? I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death already, I just now finally joined this list. Also, what should I expect to pay for one? Thanks, Jon

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Re: Fluke 9010
by Mark Shostak 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

From: "ayeckley" <ayeckley(a)neo.rr.com> >>What would it take to ad a serial port? > > >Well, since I traded the one I had with the serial >interface (JM!) I'd also like to have this feature. > >Anyone ever disassemble one to find out what it's >got? 8250 I'd guess - different firmware too ? It's not an ACE (8250), it's older. I seem to recall it's in a 24 pin pkg. It's on a pretty small board (a few inches sq). If anyone's really interested in them, I have the schematics for it lying around. -Mark

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Re: Fluke 9010
by ayeckley 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

>What would it take to ad a serial port? Well, since I traded the one I had with the serial interface (JM!) I'd also like to have this feature. Anyone ever disassemble one to find out what it's got? 8250 I'd guess - different firmware too ? Alex http://home.neo.lrun.com/ayeckle/ ayeckley(a)neo.lrun.com (Play) yecklea(a)diebold.com (Work)

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Signature Analyzers
by Jon Raiford 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

I have decided that I should get a Sig. Analyzer. What is the one to get? I keep seeing people talk about the HP 5004A, is that was I should be targeting? I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death already, I just now finally joined this list. Also, what should I expect to pay for one? Thanks, Jon

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RE: Signature Analyzers
by Chris Loggans 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

Every time I've used my HP 5006, the signatures have matched the Atari documentation. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: Jon Raiford To: TechToolsList(a)flippers.com Sent: 1/14/00 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Signature Analyzers Ok, thanks. I guess it really is the right one to go after. Is it true that the it reports the same signature as a cat box? I've heard two different stories, so I wasn't sure what to believe :) Thanks again Jon At 08:20 AM 01/14/2000 -0800, you wrote: >As far as I know - any signature analyzer should do fine. The HP 5004A >has the most documentation available online as far as troubleshooting >video game boards. > >I bought the HP 5004a for $100 although you may see it for slightly less >on ebay. I got mine simply because most of the documentation on using the >Cinematronics exorsizor mentions this particular model. > >Just my 2 cents. > > >Matt > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > >On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Jon Raiford wrote: > > > I have decided that I should get a Sig. Analyzer. What is the one to > > get? I keep seeing people talk about the HP 5004A, is that was I > > should be targeting? I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death > > already, I just now finally joined this list. Also, what should I > > expect to pay for one? > > > > Thanks, Jon > > > >

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RE: Signature Analyzers
by Chris Loggans 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

The HP 5006 is also an option if you cannot find the 5004. The HP 5006 is the same as a 5004 with a few more bells and whistles. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: Matt Rossiter - Verio Southern California To: Tech Tools List Sent: 1/14/00 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Signature Analyzers As far as I know - any signature analyzer should do fine. The HP 5004A has the most documentation available online as far as troubleshooting video game boards. I bought the HP 5004a for $100 although you may see it for slightly less on ebay. I got mine simply because most of the documentation on using the Cinematronics exorsizor mentions this particular model. Just my 2 cents. Matt _____________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Jon Raiford wrote: > I have decided that I should get a Sig. Analyzer. What is the one to > get? I keep seeing people talk about the HP 5004A, is that was I > should be targeting? I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death > already, I just now finally joined this list. Also, what should I > expect to pay for one? > > Thanks, Jon > >

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Re: test of autoreply #3
by John Robertson 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

Third test of edited control file... Think I have it now...this should also enable folks to auto-subscribe by just sending a message to the list, plus "Reply-To" will invoke the list address instead of the author, and finally a mistake will cause the "Help" file to be sent to the sender. Second test of edited control file.. At 07:53 AM 1/13/2000 -0800, John Robertson wrote: >I have no idea if this will work or if I broke the list...will just send >this out to the list and see if I can reply to it... > >John :-#?# John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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test of autoreply-failed
by John Robertson 13 Jan '00

13 Jan '00

Dang my test of autoreply didn't work...does anyone know how to edit mail list rc.custom files so it will work correctly? John :-#?# John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) http://www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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