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Fluke 9000A mystery adapter (for me at least ;-)
by John Robertson 20 Feb '18

20 Feb '18

I have a pod module here called "Z8 I/F ADAPTER" Fluke #9000-200/AB. It has no cable to the base, just a 40 pin CPU cable. Inside is a couple of RAM chips, and some Fluke hybrid interface ICs. Any guesses? John :-#)#

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Any Taito Bench Tester documentation available?
by James Marous 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

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Re: Cracking the 9010A ROM signature generator
by Kev 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

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Fluke 9000a-8051 Manual
by Ed Osborne 10 Sep '12

10 Sep '12

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Fluke 90 Series Manuals
by Matt Rossiter 29 Oct '10

29 Oct '10

Does anyone happen to know if these are available online somewhere? I have them and I'm just wondering if I should scan them in. The two I have are: 1) 90 Series uP Board Tester - User's Manual 2) Quicktools for the IBM PC - User's Manual Matt _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist

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UDN6118A vs UDN6118P
by barry2＠shilmover.com 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

All, I found some old Williams display boards with UDN6118P chips on them. I could not find a pdf for them. what are the differences between the A and P chips? Are they interchangeable? Barry ---------------- I meant PDF page 131 Matt On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:18:04 -0700, Matt Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: > Some of the Fluke 9010a's (mine for example) might be different than these > schematics, but you can look here on pdf page 137. > http://arcarc.xmission.com/Test%20Equipment/Fluke/9010A%20Base/9010A%20Serv… 0Manual.pdf > > You should know how to convert Hex to Binary. > HEX-08 -> D7=0 D6=0 D5=0 D4=0 D3=1 D2=0 D1=0 D0=0 > > If it's reporting BTS 8 is failing - then check the 4116 ram chip > responsible for D3 - which is at locate U12. > > If BTS 12 are failing, it means D3 and D2 are stuck. So check U11 and U12 > or their buffers. > > Matt > > On Tue, 26 May 2009 21:41:10 -0400, barry2(a)shilmover.com wrote: >> Hooked up the 2nd 9010A. It returns: >> >> R/W ERR @ C000 BTS 12 - LOOP? >> >> Barry >> >> ---------------------- >> >> I been having trouble posting to the group... trying again. >> >> I have 2 non-working 9010A units. On both they beep once, LEDs flash, > then >> >> nothing. >> >> Hooked up a working 9010A that I borrowed (thanks David). Bus tests > fine. >> RAM >> returns the following: >> >> R/W ERR @ C000 BTS 08 - LOOP? >> >> Manual states: >> If a RAM failure occurs, carefully examine the diagnostic message. The > RAM >> >> Test is usually sufficient for deducing the failed component directly. >> >> It then does not explain how to read the message. :-) I am new to this, >> so be >> kind if its a stupid question. >> >> I deduced that there is a Read/Write error at C000. How do I "deduce" > the >> failed component? >> >> Barry >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Help troubleshooting a 9010A
by barry2＠shilmover.com 28 May '09

28 May '09

Okay, Been working on the units and I am finally getting somewhere. - I blew U1 on the Display board. Anyone know what chip this is? (its the large 40-pin chip) Marking: P8041A 1210 8423 535419 Intel '77 I confirmed that this was the issue by swapping it out between the displays. Display 1: - Missing the bottom right segment on all digits (I believe its segment 'c' according to the schematic, Figure 8-3). Any idea what would cause this? Display 2: - 10th character sometimes disappears, sometimes is faded, sometimes is fine. I traced that this is controlled by U4 (pin 11) and U8 (pins 2 & 17). I can replace both, but which is the most likely problem? Anyone know where I can get U8 (UDN6118A) chips? Thanks for the help so far. Barry --------------------------------- So I got both systems working, on to the next problem. The display on one is missing a few of the lines (mostly the bottom right ones). any idea where to start? The other, the display flashes random characters and beeps. Thing that ticks me off is that it was mostly working (one character was dim) and I unplugged the connector thinking the power was off. What damage did I do? Barry I meant PDF page 131 Matt On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:18:04 -0700, Matt Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: > Some of the Fluke 9010a's (mine for example) might be different than these > schematics, but you can look here on pdf page 137. > http://arcarc.xmission.com/Test%20Equipment/Fluke/9010A%20Base/9010A%20Serv… 0Manual.pdf > > You should know how to convert Hex to Binary. > HEX-08 -> D7=0 D6=0 D5=0 D4=0 D3=1 D2=0 D1=0 D0=0 > > If it's reporting BTS 8 is failing - then check the 4116 ram chip > responsible for D3 - which is at locate U12. > > If BTS 12 are failing, it means D3 and D2 are stuck. So check U11 and U12 > or their buffers. > > Matt > > On Tue, 26 May 2009 21:41:10 -0400, barry2(a)shilmover.com wrote: >> Hooked up the 2nd 9010A. It returns: >> >> R/W ERR @ C000 BTS 12 - LOOP? >> >> Barry >> >> ---------------------- >> >> I been having trouble posting to the group... trying again. >> >> I have 2 non-working 9010A units. On both they beep once, LEDs flash, > then >> >> nothing. >> >> Hooked up a working 9010A that I borrowed (thanks David). Bus tests > fine. >> RAM >> returns the following: >> >> R/W ERR @ C000 BTS 08 - LOOP? >> >> Manual states: >> If a RAM failure occurs, carefully examine the diagnostic message. The > RAM >> >> Test is usually sufficient for deducing the failed component directly. >> >> It then does not explain how to read the message. :-) I am new to this, >> so be >> kind if its a stupid question. >> >> I deduced that there is a Read/Write error at C000. How do I "deduce" > the >> failed component? >> >> Barry >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Help troubleshooting a 9010A
by barry2＠shilmover.com 28 May '09

28 May '09

Thanks Clay, Much appreciated (you coming to the show in 2 weeks?) Barry > Been working on the units and I am finally getting somewhere. > - I blew U1 on the Display board. Anyone know what chip this > is? (its the large 40-pin chip) Marking: P8041A 1210 > 8423 > 535419 > Intel '77 > I confirmed that this was the issue by swapping it out > between the displays. Intel 8041 microcontroller... It's a mask ROM part, IIRC (I think the 8741 was an EPROM version). It's similar to the 8048, both of which were predecessors to the ubiquitous 8051... (MCS-51 family vs. the MCS-48 family) Unless someone has managed to extract the code and you can locate an 8741 to program it on to, you're probably stuck with just swapping in one from another unit. (At some point, maybe getting that particular MCU decapped to preserve the ROM would be a good idea...) > Display 2: > - 10th character sometimes disappears, sometimes is faded, > sometimes is fine. I traced that this is controlled by U4 > (pin 11) and U8 (pins 2 & 17). I can replace both, but which > is the most likely problem? Anyone know where I can get U8 > (UDN6118A) chips? Allegro and Sprague used to make those... You could steal some off of an old Williams pinball VFD driver board, or just type "UDN6118" in on eBay and there will be some there. -Clay _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Help troubleshooting a 9010A
by barry2＠shilmover.com 28 May '09

28 May '09

So I got both systems working, on to the next problem. The display on one is missing a few of the lines (mostly the bottom right ones). any idea where to start? The other, the display flashes random characters and beeps. Thing that ticks me off is that it was mostly working (one character was dim) and I unplugged the connector thinking the power was off. What damage did I do? Barry I meant PDF page 131 Matt On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:18:04 -0700, Matt Rossiter <matt(a)rossiters.com> wrote: > Some of the Fluke 9010a's (mine for example) might be different than these > schematics, but you can look here on pdf page 137. > http://arcarc.xmission.com/Test%20Equipment/Fluke/9010A%20Base/9010A%20Serv… 0Manual.pdf > > You should know how to convert Hex to Binary. > HEX-08 -> D7=0 D6=0 D5=0 D4=0 D3=1 D2=0 D1=0 D0=0 > > If it's reporting BTS 8 is failing - then check the 4116 ram chip > responsible for D3 - which is at locate U12. > > If BTS 12 are failing, it means D3 and D2 are stuck. So check U11 and U12 > or their buffers. > > Matt > > On Tue, 26 May 2009 21:41:10 -0400, barry2(a)shilmover.com wrote: >> Hooked up the 2nd 9010A. It returns: >> >> R/W ERR @ C000 BTS 12 - LOOP? >> >> Barry >> >> ---------------------- >> >> I been having trouble posting to the group... trying again. >> >> I have 2 non-working 9010A units. On both they beep once, LEDs flash, > then >> >> nothing. >> >> Hooked up a working 9010A that I borrowed (thanks David). Bus tests > fine. >> RAM >> returns the following: >> >> R/W ERR @ C000 BTS 08 - LOOP? >> >> Manual states: >> If a RAM failure occurs, carefully examine the diagnostic message. The > RAM >> >> Test is usually sufficient for deducing the failed component directly. >> >> It then does not explain how to read the message. :-) I am new to this, >> so be >> kind if its a stupid question. >> >> I deduced that there is a Read/Write error at C000. How do I "deduce" > the >> failed component? >> >> Barry >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Metcal Desolder Tip Trade?
by Bill Karkula 28 May '09

28 May '09

Any Metcal users interested in a one for one trade? I have SDC-704s and SDC-705s and am looking for 3 or 4 SDC-703s in trade. Thanks! Bill _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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