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by Brent Walker 24 Mar '16

24 Mar '16

John, I'd love to have more information/tips/tricks on using these. I picked up one of the 6809 ones a few months back when somebody was selling 4 or 5 of them on eBay, but haven't used it much. Definitely different from the 9010. I was a bit confused about how it seemed to run the mentioned tests while the board (Joust boardset at the time) seemed to be running, so the cycle stealing info makes sense (and remember reading something to that effect in the doc's, or in the video (available on YouTube). I also remember getting certain error messages on the display that may well have been related to the lack (?) of the mentioned pull-up resistors on specific pins. I'll have to pull it out again and give it another go at some point. I seem to remember an earlier post (or maybe it was on KLOV) talking about using a socket between the UUT and the 90 to make it easier to use with some UUT configurations, but don't remember the details - ie, install a couple of sockets on the UUT, put the processor into the top socket, and then clip the 90 into place - this may have been a means of getting a pull-up resistor between the uP pin(s) in question and the UUT PCB. It would be nice to have a full write-up/guide on using these with arcade/pinball PCB's - there's just not much out there on them, and I'm sure they'd be useful for cases where you just can't get your hands on a 9010/9100 equivalent pod. Brent > The 90 series was designed in Canada (Edmonton, Alberta) and worked > fairly well as a clip-over the CPU type of exorcisor. I've got pretty > much the complete set and they can be handy at times, especially if you > don't have the pod for your 9010/9100. I have all the pods so these > basically sit on a shelf. > > These only work with CPUs that can support having their address and data > lines floated when you select a particular CPU pin, AND that pin MUST > have a pullup resistor on the UUT PCB. In some cases that pin was simply > wired to Vcc, and then to able to use the 90 you have to cut the Vcc > trace and add a 10K pullup. > > The 90 works by cycle stealing, it runs when the CPU is on the opposite > cycle. Rather cute in fact - the game can be running and you can run a > RAM, ROM and I/O test at the same time! > > It has a RS-232 port as I recall and if more folks on the list had these > then I probably would have played more with mine and we may have made > some use of it here. > > Perhaps a show of hands of folks with the Z80 or 9809 Series 90? > > If there is interest perhaps I can contact the designer and see if he is > any more interested in sharing info on the unit than he was the last > time I asked about six years ago...what I'd like him to do is write the > story of the 90 series device, and what the heck, I will try contacting > him again in any case. It would be nice to get the story out! > > John :-#)# > > _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 6809 pod
by teeray 20 Mar '16

20 Mar '16

Tony, All John meant was that (you, me, anybody) considering buying a Fluke cpu pod might want to check the Fluke 90 series as an alternative to the ridiculous prices people want for the Fluke pods. End of story. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Tony Jones <tony(a)tonyjones.com> >Sent: Mar 17, 2016 9:36 PM >To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com>, John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 6809 pod > >John. Who is the "you" here? Me? Kevin? Both of us have 6809 pods so >I'm not understanding why we would want the 90? Can you elaborate? >On Mar 17, 2016 2:47 PM, "John Robertson" <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > >> On 03/17/2016 12:33 PM, Tony Jones wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Kevin Moore <talon.k(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Man those things have gone up in price. I bought 2 about 3 years ago for >>>> $350 total. >>>> >>> This was a very good deal 3 years ago. Last one to sell on eBay >>> (untested/as-is) went for $500. >>> >> >> You may want to keep an eye out for the Fluke 90 series portable MPU >> analyzers... >> >> John :-#)# >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 6809 pod
by teeray 18 Mar '16

18 Mar '16

http://navatek.com/wordpress/fluke-90/ -----Original Message----- >From: Tony Jones >Sent: Mar 17, 2016 8:12 PM >To: teeray >Cc: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com>, John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 6809 pod > >On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:18 PM, teeray <teeray(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> [anyone] considering buying a Fluke cpu pod might want to check the Fluke 90 series > >oic. I know nothing about the 90, what are the functional differences >if any? The display seems very small (prior ebay link). > >don't really want to touch the 'ridiculous' bit with a 10' pole ;-) > >thanks! _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 6809 pod
by Tony Jones 18 Mar '16

18 Mar '16

I just listed a 6809 pod on the KLOV site. I assume most people here are members there so I'll just give a link to the thread: http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=371327 Thanks! _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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BK 560 serial port
by Ian Eure 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Has anyone successfully used the User Library Software or serial port with a BK 560? I finally picked up one of these, but I haven’t found copies of the user library software or manual anywhere. If anyone has a copy, could they upload or point me to it? — Ian _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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