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Hooking up a Commodore 1084 or Philips CM8524 or Atari SM1425 to your Fluke 9100
by Andre Huijts 27 Nov '12

27 Nov '12

If you ever want to hook up one of these great little monitors to your Fluke 9100, here is the type of cable to use: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-128-80-column-mode-Magnavox-80-RGB-video-… These monitors are still pretty widely available, I picked up two of these for between 10 and 15 Euro's locally, check your local Craig's list, e-bay etc. They were also sold under the Ancona brand in Europe and probably Magnavox in the US. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Long project this weekend
by David Shoemaker 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

I booted my 9100A up, rom version 2.2 and 4m ram. Doesn't boot. So plenty to do to bring it back from the dead. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] More updates to ftp - FLUKE
by Andre Huijts 25 Nov '12

25 Nov '12

It does make sense, doesn't it....it would be extremely weird to put +5V on that pin..... Actually....looking at the schematics again it looks like the monochrome monitor is actually FEEDING BACK the +5V judging by the "arrow" going "into" the connector... However, I have a problem now.....I need +5V for the 74LS04....and I don't want to make this a messy job....so I think I'll switch to this: http://www.mikesarcade.com/wiretap/info/SyncInv.pdf Guess I'll have to order a 74C04.... Op 16 nov. 2012, om 23:38 heeft David Shoemaker <davids(a)oz.net> het volgende geschreven: > I have used a normal cga monitor on mine before. I don't remember doing anything special to use it. > _______________________________________________ > Techtoolslist mailing list > Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com > http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist > FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org > Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ André Huijts andre.huijts(a)upcmail.nl _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Crystal Castles ROM Address Range
by Justin Johnson 23 Nov '12

23 Nov '12

This is my first post. I'm learning how to use my Fluke 9010 and ran into a problem doing a CRC check on some of the ROMS. Looking in the MAME source code I found the address ranges for each ROM(see below). ROMs 304 to 305 work fine but the address appears to be out of range for ROMs 101 and 102. ROM 101 according to the source code should start at 10000-11FFF. What address should I be using? Where am I going wrong here?? ROM_START( ccastles ) 513 ROM_REGION( 0x14000, "maincpu", 0 ) 514 ROM_LOAD( "136022-403.1k", 0x0a000, 0x2000, CRC(81471ae5) SHA1(8ec13b48119ecf8fe85207403c0a0de5240cded4) ) 515 ROM_LOAD( "136022-404.1l", 0x0c000, 0x2000, CRC(820daf29) SHA1(a2cff00e9ddce201344692b75038431e4241fedd) ) 516 ROM_LOAD( "136022-405.1n", 0x0e000, 0x2000, CRC(4befc296) SHA1(2e789a32903808014e9d5f3021d7eff57c3e2212) ) 517 ROM_LOAD( "136022-102.1h", 0x10000, 0x2000, CRC(f6ccfbd4) SHA1(69c3da2cbefc5e03a77357e817e3015da5d8334a) ) 518 ROM_LOAD( "136022-101.1f", 0x12000, 0x2000, CRC(e2e17236) SHA1(81fa95b4d9beacb06d6b4afdf346d94117396557) ) 519 520 ROM_REGION( 0x4000, "gfx1", 0 ) 521 ROM_LOAD( "136022-106.8d", 0x0000, 0x2000, CRC(9d1d89fc) SHA1(01c279edee322cc28f34506c312e4a9e3363b1be) ) 522 ROM_LOAD( "136022-107.8b", 0x2000, 0x2000, CRC(39960b7d) SHA1(82bdf764ac23e72598883283c5e957169387abd4) ) 523 Thanks Justin _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Fluke 9100A Probe for trade
by David Shoemaker 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

I could do that for you. _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Fluke 9100A Probe for trade
by Justin Johnson 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

I have a fluke 9100A probe that I would like to trade for a 9010A probe. If you are interested let me know. Thanks Justin _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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For sale Fluke 9010/9100 stuff
by Andre Huijts 21 Nov '12

21 Nov '12

Guys, think I already listed it but to be clear, I have following stuff for trade or sale: -2x Fluke 9010 probes. Since I don't have a 9010 I can't test them but they look to be in excellent condition. -2x 8088 pod, both Selftesting OK -1x 80186 pod, selftesting OK -1x 80286 pod, error during selftest: Pod name not yet known (please reset) - 9132A-80286 Personality Module - 9132A-80386 Personality Module - small square board with 80286 on it - small square board with 80386 on it I'd love to trade (maybe with some extra money) all/any of this stuff for the following: - working 6502 pod - working Z80 pod - 6809 pod (hey, I can try ! ;)) André _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] Crystal Castles ROM Address Range
by JJ 21 Nov '12

21 Nov '12

Thank you very much Clay for the info. I will give it a try over the weekend. Thanks Justin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID David Shoemaker <davids(a)oz.net> wrote: >Hey Clay great description of the issue on this one. > >Now do you have any F#(*)$#ing idea how to do that with Williams "classic" >hardware? Been pulling my hair out for way to long trying to figure out how >to do it on them. And while I am at it MCR III :) > >David > >-----Original Message----- >From: techtoolslist-bounces(a)flippers.com >[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Clay Cowgill >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:16 PM >To: 'Technical Tools Mail List' >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Crystal Castles ROM Address Range > >Crystal Castles uses so-called bank selected memory, meaning that only a >portion of the total ROM is visible at any given time from a particular >address range. > >From a quick glance at the schematic, it looks like writing either a >>0x00 or >0x01 to address 0x9E87 will switch banks of ROM. Put another way .1f and >.1h will appear in memory *or* .1k and .1l. 0xA000 (.1k and .1h) and 0xC000 >(.1l and .1f) > >You can write 0x9E87 with 0x00 or 0x01 from the 9010 controls to manually >switch banks and view/checksum ROM contents. > >-Clay > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: techtoolslist-bounces(a)flippers.com >> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Justin >> Johnson >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:06 PM >> To: techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> Subject: [Techtoolslist] Crystal Castles ROM Address Range >> >> This is my first post. I'm learning how to use my Fluke 9010 and ran >> into a problem doing a CRC check on some of the ROMS. >> Looking in the >> MAME source code I found the address ranges for each ROM(see >> below). >> ROMs 304 to 305 work fine but the address appears to be out of range >> for ROMs 101 and 102. ROM 101 according to the source code should >> start at 10000-11FFF. What address should I be using? Where am I >> going wrong here?? > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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How about this tool for making floppy images ?
by Andre Huijts 20 Nov '12

20 Nov '12

It's called Samdisk and runs under W2000 and later, It is command line driven though, but so what, the important thing is that if it works you don't need an ancient PC for (re) creating the images as I've seen that Teledisk does, It is listed that Teledisk images can be handled. It also has a pretty detailed scan function to show the format of a floppy. Site here: http://simonowen.com/samdisk/#download _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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Re: [Techtoolslist] OmniFlop
by teeray 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

Just boot a live Linux cd and use dd to copy the floppy to a .bin file -----Original Message----- >From: techtools-steve <techtools(a)arcadehacking.com> >Sent: Nov 18, 2012 12:06 PM >To: Technical Tools Mail List <techtoolslist(a)flippers.com> >Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] OmniFlop > >No luck with Andre's new images.... both the 6.0 and 6.1 sys1 disk fails >to boot. > >The fluke 9100 does start booting from DR1 bit after maybe two seconds >you no longer hear the track stepping sounds from the floppy and the >fluke locks up. > > > >On 11/12/2012 3:58 PM, Andre Huijts wrote: >> Sent the files to Steve, David and John.....who will be first ;);) >> >> Seriously hope this will solve that (likely) bad V6.1 System disk 2 bad image.... >> >> Do we have any info about differences between V6.0 and V6.1 ? >> >> I didn't compare the images as I thought the image files on the PC will probably different between the various tools used to make these images ? >> >> I would love to write back my images to (new) DD floppies and give them a try. Could I try them on the 9105 ? I ask this because I also have a floppy set of V6.0 that is indicated (handwritten) to be for the 9105.... >> >> Also, isn't the backup tool on the "Serive disk" ? I have a non official floppy with handwritten Service disk (or something like that) 1.4 >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >> >> Op 12 nov. 2012 om 06:10 heeft John Robertson<jrr(a)flippers.com> het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Hi Andre, >>> >>> If you want to send me a copy via email I will test them either Monday or Tuesday... >>> >>> Have you tired comparing the set you have created with the set of 6.1 discs on TTL FTP under Fluke/9100A/System_DiscsRV6.1 ? >>> >>> John :-#)# >>> >>> Andre Huijts wrote: >>>> I understand the 9100 is OS-9 based but OmniFlop already supports three different OS-9 formats. However, it doesn't recognize them as any of these three. >>>> >>>> I've left behind Windows since 2006 (well my work's laptop is still running it) and moved to iMacs but my old PC still had it installed. >>>> >>>> I still figure it is more likely for someone to still have a working XP setup than a DOS machine, not to mention not being able to transfer stuff to USB devices under DOS (normally). >>>> >>>> You can always make a multi-boot system, one of them XP. >>>> >>>> OmniFlop won't run correct under virtual machines though and using USB floppy drives is also a no-no. >>>> >>>> I have now backed up all V6.1 discs two. I have two sets: >>>> Set 1 has System disks 1,2,3 Programmers Disk and IEEE-4888 >>>> Set 2 has all this except the Programmers disk. >>>> >>>> Only Disk 1 of set 2 gave a read error but worked after a retry, All other floppies read trouble free. >>>> >>>> The zipped file is only 2,5 MB incl. the V6.0 set so no problem to e-mail it. >>>> >>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>> >>>> Op 11 nov. 2012 om 23:29 heeft Martin White<martin(a)guddler.co.uk> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> >>>>> IIRC they’re OS/9 floppies - not of Mac OS 9 fame. At the time that I looked before (2008 / 9 maybe?) it was one of the formats that required a purchased license. Obviously that could well have changed by now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I tried to use Omniflop quite a lot with Acorn BBC / Archimedes disks and I was able to get it to work under XP but I was never able to get the 64bit Windows 7 version to work. I went through a few mails with the developer who didn’t have a 64bit Windows based PC so all he was able to say was “<insert name> has got it working but I’ve got no way to test / debug it” so I never got any further with it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It was great while it worked but I moved on from Windows XP a long, long time ago now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Andre Huijts >>>>> Sent: ‎11‎ ‎November‎ ‎2012 ‎21‎:‎49 >>>>> To: Technical Tools Mail List >>>>> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] OmniFlop >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did a test with OmniFlop and it reports that the Fluke floppies have the following format: >>>>> >>>>> 80/2/18/512 >>>>> >>>>> My guess is >>>>> 80 tracks >>>>> 2 sides >>>>> 18 sectors per track >>>>> 512 bytes per sector >>>>> >>>>> I did notice the floppy format was mentioned somewhere in the Fluke docs but I forgot in which....will try to find it but if anyone else already knows......please confirm this is correct or not... >>>>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>> >>>>> Op 11 nov. 2012 om 22:35 heeft Andre Huijts<a.huijts(a)upcmail.nl> het volgende geschreven: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I found this very promising looking program to back up the Fluke 9100 floppies: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> I like it because it runs under Windows, yes even W7 and it supports a load of formats, amongst them OS-9 formats. >>>>>> >>>>>> As a test I am now backing up the V6.0 disks. If anyone is able to recreate these floppies using OmniFlop and try them on a 9100a that would be great, >>>>>> I didn't have the time yet to hook up a monitor/ TV. >>>>>> >>>>>> Instead I dug out my PC which hasn't been used since 2005.....which eventually worked after getting some Raid 0 errors and the videocard loosing power because of what looks like a burnt power connector.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, OmniFlop recognizes the Fluke floppies as Gravograph ISIS format, which is a computer controlled engraving machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone has a "spare" system they can try out these floppy images on so that we know if OmniFlop works for us that would be great ! :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>>>>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>>>>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >>>>>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>>>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>>>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >>>>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>>>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>>>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >>>>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >>>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >>> >>> -- >>> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) >>> www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Techtoolslist mailing list >>> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >>> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >>> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >>> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtoolslist mailing list >> Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >> http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >> FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >> Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ > >_______________________________________________ >Techtoolslist mailing list >Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com >http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist >FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org >Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist(a)flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/

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