Hey Guys, I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done: New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000. The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine. When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly. If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it. Thanks Grant _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
On 04/21/2014 12:19 PM, Grant Thienemann wrote:
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly.
If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
Thanks Grant ____________
If the RAM test fails in one section, but not another then you likely have a problem with a RAM chip. If you have 4-bit chips then you can tell which it is by the error code - if it is X- that is the High 4-bit RAM, and if it is -X then that is the low 4-bit RAM. Where "X" indicates the bad read. I use "55" and "AA" write then read to suspect RAM and this can show up the errors a bit faster. Say you write 55 and then read 51 - that means the lower 4-bit RAM has a stuck bit (Bit 3 always low). Now you may get 55, so then you try AA which may give you A2 and again that indicates a bad lower RAM Bit 3. John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
Hey John, Thank you so much for the information! I'm still learning how to use the Fluke 9010a honestly, I'm very new to it, so I'm also trying to figure out how to correlate the memory address that I'm testing on the 9010a to the physical ram on the PCB itself. Thanks Grant On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:44 PM, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
On 04/21/2014 12:19 PM, Grant Thienemann wrote:
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly.
If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
Thanks Grant ____________
If the RAM test fails in one section, but not another then you likely have a problem with a RAM chip. If you have 4-bit chips then you can tell which it is by the error code - if it is X- that is the High 4-bit RAM, and if it is -X then that is the low 4-bit RAM. Where "X" indicates the bad read.
I use "55" and "AA" write then read to suspect RAM and this can show up the errors a bit faster.
Say you write 55 and then read 51 - that means the lower 4-bit RAM has a stuck bit (Bit 3 always low). Now you may get 55, so then you try AA which may give you A2 and again that indicates a bad lower RAM Bit 3.
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?---!! Wouldn't a Z80 have ROM starting at 0000? On Apr 21, 2014 2:19 PM, "Grant Thienemann" <grant.thienemann@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly.
If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
Thanks Grant _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ttl.arcadetech.org/TTL/Test_Equipment Archive site: http://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/
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On 04/21/2014 1:11 PM, Rodger Boots wrote:
?---!! Wouldn't a Z80 have ROM starting at 0000? On Apr 21, 2014 2:19 PM, "Grant Thienemann" <grant.thienemann@gmail.com> wrote: Oh, fine, tell me I didn't read the CPU info he gave...
Gah! So, memory map for Berzerk... http://www.coinop.org/kb_dl.aspx/KB/gametech/berzerk%20tech.html Have fun Grant, sorry to give you the bum steer! Thanks Ridger for catching it! John :-#)#
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly.
If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
Thanks Grant
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If battery damaged it could be lacking the power to power up the ram. And yeah, wrong address space :) -----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:19 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Berzerk and Fluke 9010a On 04/21/2014 1:11 PM, Rodger Boots wrote:
?---!! Wouldn't a Z80 have ROM starting at 0000? On Apr 21, 2014 2:19 PM, "Grant Thienemann" <grant.thienemann@gmail.com> wrote: Oh, fine, tell me I didn't read the CPU info he gave...
Gah! So, memory map for Berzerk... http://www.coinop.org/kb_dl.aspx/KB/gametech/berzerk%20tech.html Have fun Grant, sorry to give you the bum steer! Thanks Ridger for catching it! John :-#)#
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly.
If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
Thanks Grant
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And I even misspelt Rodgers name...sorry Rodger! John ;-#)# On 04/21/2014 2:01 PM, William Stillwell wrote:
If battery damaged it could be lacking the power to power up the ram.
And yeah, wrong address space :)
-----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:19 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Berzerk and Fluke 9010a
On 04/21/2014 1:11 PM, Rodger Boots wrote:
?---!! Wouldn't a Z80 have ROM starting at 0000? On Apr 21, 2014 2:19 PM, "Grant Thienemann" <grant.thienemann@gmail.com> wrote: Oh, fine, tell me I didn't read the CPU info he gave...
Gah!
So, memory map for Berzerk...
http://www.coinop.org/kb_dl.aspx/KB/gametech/berzerk%20tech.html
Have fun Grant, sorry to give you the bum steer!
Thanks Rodger for catching it!
John :-#)#
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes correctly. If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
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Hey Guys, So I started messing it with again last night with the new memory map and I think I have some broken traces on the VFB-1000 pcb, so I need to take it back out and trace all the sockets that I replaced, I have confirmed that the ram on the ZPU-1000 and BSC-1000 are good, so that is a plus. -Grant On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:36 PM, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
And I even misspelt Rodgers name...sorry Rodger!
John ;-#)#
On 04/21/2014 2:01 PM, William Stillwell wrote:
If battery damaged it could be lacking the power to power up the ram.
And yeah, wrong address space :)
-----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:19 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Berzerk and Fluke 9010a
On 04/21/2014 1:11 PM, Rodger Boots wrote:
?---!! Wouldn't a Z80 have ROM starting at 0000? On Apr 21, 2014 2:19 PM, "Grant Thienemann" <grant.thienemann@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, fine, tell me I didn't read the CPU info he gave...
Gah!
So, memory map for Berzerk...
http://www.coinop.org/kb_dl.aspx/KB/gametech/berzerk%20tech.html
Have fun Grant, sorry to give you the bum steer!
Thanks Rodger for catching it!
John :-#)#
Hey Guys,
I'm bound and determined to get my Berzerk working again. Currently I have it working to the point that the game will boot however the game will freeze randomly. List of things I have done:
New sockets on the ZPU-1000 with new EPROMs and Z80 processor New ram sockets on the VFB-1000 and I have 4164 ram and 4116 ram that I'm looking into putting onto the VFB-1000.
The BSC-1000 color board is fine, and the cleanest board I have on the machine.
When I go to do the short ram check on my Berzerk board set, the 0-7FF fails, however the second one, 1000-17FF if I remember passes
correctly.
If anyone knows any tips or tricks with using the Fluke 9010a with a
Berzerk board set I would appreciate it.
Thanks Grant
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