I have no problem with an annual monetary contribution to help keep TTL alive. Best Regards, Bill
On Sep 25, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Brad Gass via Techtoolslist <techtoolslist@flippers.com> wrote:
I would also be fine with making a contribution toward a list serv annual cost, but I'm not sure how many would be willing to contribute or if as a group we could consistently get to the $220 annual fee?
Although I run several low-volume internet facing services (and have for many years), a list server is one thing I have *not* ever run. I'm not afraid of delving into it if that is the most viable option, and Mailman 3 actually looks pretty slick in general.
Where / how it's hosted isn't really a problem (I'm becoming increasingly impressed with the value/performance of Hetzner services). But it is likely a fair bit of work to get setup and going initially, so I think it would need to be much clearer that was going to be the path needed before really digging in deep.
--Brad
----- Original Message ----- From: "William Stillwell" <ki4swy@gmail.com> To: "jrr" <jrr@flippers.com>, "Technical Tools Mail List" <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2025 10:34:45 AM Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Need a new mail-list host for TTL!
That's a lot cheaper then what it costs me to run romident.coinopflorida.com ( $1200/year )
they need to come up with a list server where members pay to be a part of it, instead of the host trying to recoup costs from members. I would be happy to pay $5/year to keep this list going.
William Stillwell
On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 10:28 AM John Robertson via Techtoolslist < techtoolslist@flippers.com> wrote:
On 2025-09-25 5:28 a.m., William Stillwell wrote: BOOOOOOO....
Groups.IO Pricing $0.44/member (min $220/year) billed annually (1 month free)
there is also googlegroups ( which is freee... HOWEVER, the caveat is if used for Business ) it's NOT free... unless your a non-profit...
How many people are on the list John?
groups.io <http://groups.io>
William Stillwell
Yeah, after setting this up way back in Nov 1999 to have it killed off now (expiry Jan 1, 2026) is tiresome.
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