Pac-Man / Amiga 1084s question
I'm trying to display pacman on an Amiga 1084s monitor. For some reason I can't get it to sync up. I've got the colors right. I connected the composite sync to R36 but it keeps rolling. Anyone got some suggestions? This monitor works great for most other games I've tested. It doesn't roll when connected in the cabinet. Matt If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com
I'm trying to display pacman on an Amiga 1084s monitor. For some reason I can't get it to sync up.
ISTR problems if I used the internal speakers on that monitor. Are you just connecting thru the DB9 on the back? If so, the connections I have are: Looking at the back of the monitor Digital Analog Pin Number TTL Mode RGB Analog Mode 1 Ground Ground 2 Ground Ground 3 Red Red 4 Green Green 5 Blue Blue 6 Intensity N/C 7 N/C Composite Sync 8 Horiz.Sync N/C 9 Vert. Sync N/C I used the Analog mode column. Best, - Mike - If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com
Matt, I use a 1084s on my workbench. I made a JAMMA test box and used a pac to jamma adapter I built and it works fine with all of the pac boards I've connected to date. If you are going straight to the pacman board, just sub the pac connections for the jamma ones listed below. The trick is to connect the sync output to the horizontal sync input on the din connector of the 1084s. It's been awhile since I set this up, but I think there is a video mode switch on the monitor that you have to make sure is in the correct position also. 1084s Monitor to JAMMA Connections: Pick up a five or six pin DIN plug from Radio Shack that will fit the back of the 1084s analog VGA socket on the monitor. You hook it up like this to the JAMMA connector: DIN Pin 1 (Green) to JAMMA N DIN Pin 2 (HSync) to JAMMA P DIN Pin 3 (GND) to JAMMA 14 DIN pin 4 (Red) to JAMMA 12 DIN pin 5 (Blue) to JAMMA 13 DIN pin 6 (VSYNC) is not used Here is the diagram for the 1084s Analog VGA connector: 1084 & 1084S Monitor Analog Connector 6 PIN DIN FEMALE viewed at the monitor _______ Pin# Signal / 3 \ Pin 1 G Green / 2 4 \ Pin 2 HSYNC Horizontal Sync | 6 | Pin 3 GND Ground \ 1 _ 5 / Pin 4 R Red \__/ \__/ Pin 5 B Blue Pin 6 VSYNC Vertical Sync Hope this helps, Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com]On Behalf Of Matt Rossiter Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:17 PM To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: Pac-Man / Amiga 1084s question I'm trying to display pacman on an Amiga 1084s monitor. For some reason I can't get it to sync up. I've got the colors right. I connected the composite sync to R36 but it keeps rolling. Anyone got some suggestions? This monitor works great for most other games I've tested. It doesn't roll when connected in the cabinet. Matt If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com
Matt, I found that the amiga monitors sometimes needed their sync 'window' moving around a bit to sync up on a lot of boards.. This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back). I've had numerous monitors over the years, and I have had to do this for 2-3 of them, as only certain games would sync up.. Andy Welburn www.andys-arcade.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Rossiter Sent: 26 February 2004 02:17 To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: Pac-Man / Amiga 1084s question I'm trying to display pacman on an Amiga 1084s monitor. For some reason I can't get it to sync up. I've got the colors right. I connected the composite sync to R36 but it keeps rolling. Anyone got some suggestions? This monitor works great for most other games I've tested. It doesn't roll when connected in the cabinet. Matt If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com
This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back).
I had this just happen with Tron (had to build a simple circuit to combine /H and /V sync too...). I put everything back together and tested it with another JAMMA board (MKII) and it wouldn't sync. I'm thinking I'm just going to mount that pot on the case so that I don't have to keep pulling it apart. Anyone done that before? It's a tiny trim pot and I had this idea after I reassembled everything. Anyone know what the value of the pot is? Otherwise using this monitor has been great. JB --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home If you ever want to (un)subscribe yourself with TTL, you can send mail to: <Majordomo@flippers.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: (un)subscribe techtoolslist or from another email account, besides xxx@yyy.com: (un)subscribe techtoolslist xxx@yyy.com
I agree, outside of sync problems, the monitor works great for vids. Let me know how it works as I'm interested too. Looking at the schematics I found (http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1084P/): Horiz. Sync, R437, 22K Vert. Sync, R331, 47K HTH At 07:00 AM 3/2/2004, James Bright wrote:
This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back).
I had this just happen with Tron (had to build a simple circuit to combine /H and /V sync too...).
I put everything back together and tested it with another JAMMA board (MKII) and it wouldn't sync. I'm thinking I'm just going to mount that pot on the case so that I don't have to keep pulling it apart. Anyone done that before? It's a tiny trim pot and I had this idea after I reassembled everything. Anyone know what the value of the pot is?
Otherwise using this monitor has been great.
JB
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You didn't by chance see a similar pot labeled H-FREQ? I believe that's what it was labeled on the board itself. Thanks for the link. If I have time, I'll see if I can set something up this weekend (going out of town on business so it may be a couple of days). JB --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home ----- Original Message ----- From: "Franklin Bowen" <Franklin@Bowen.net> To: "James Bright" <james@quarterarcade.com>; <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
I agree, outside of sync problems, the monitor works great for vids. Let me know how it works as I'm interested too. Looking at the schematics I found (http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1084P/):
Horiz. Sync, R437, 22K Vert. Sync, R331, 47K
HTH
At 07:00 AM 3/2/2004, James Bright wrote:
This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back).
I had this just happen with Tron (had to build a simple circuit to combine /H and /V sync too...).
I put everything back together and tested it with another JAMMA board (MKII) and it wouldn't sync. I'm thinking I'm just going to mount that pot on the case so that I don't have to keep pulling it apart. Anyone done that before? It's a tiny trim pot and I had this idea after I reassembled everything. Anyone know what the value of the pot is?
Otherwise using this monitor has been great.
JB
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Just a quick follow up note. On my 1084S, it's pot R225, "H-HOLD" and according to my DMM, it's 30K. I mounted a 25K pot (more than adequate) externally on the casing. Works well. I can't always get Tron to sync up, but I am also using boards that don't work 100%. Usually I can get close enough though. I just ran a few lines through the plastic case and mounted it using a bracket and a small bit of prototyping board. JB --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
-----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner- techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of James Bright Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:14 AM To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
You didn't by chance see a similar pot labeled H-FREQ? I believe that's what it was labeled on the board itself.
Thanks for the link. If I have time, I'll see if I can set something up this weekend (going out of town on business so it may be a couple of days).
JB
--James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
----- Original Message ----- From: "Franklin Bowen" <Franklin@Bowen.net> To: "James Bright" <james@quarterarcade.com>; <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
I agree, outside of sync problems, the monitor works great for vids. Let me know how it works as I'm interested too. Looking at the schematics I found (http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1084P/):
Horiz. Sync, R437, 22K Vert. Sync, R331, 47K
HTH
At 07:00 AM 3/2/2004, James Bright wrote:
This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back).
I had this just happen with Tron (had to build a simple circuit to combine /H and /V sync too...).
I put everything back together and tested it with another JAMMA board (MKII) and it wouldn't sync. I'm thinking I'm just going to mount that pot on the case so that I don't have to keep pulling it apart. Anyone done that before? It's a tiny trim pot and I had this idea after I reassembled everything. Anyone know what the value of the pot is?
Otherwise using this monitor has been great.
JB
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Is there a way to install a V-Hold pot? I couldn't seem to find one on mine. My pac-man board slowly scrolls vertically on this monitor. Matt
-----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner- techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of James Bright Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:41 PM To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: RE: Follow up 1084s question
Just a quick follow up note.
On my 1084S, it's pot R225, "H-HOLD" and according to my DMM, it's 30K. I mounted a 25K pot (more than adequate) externally on the casing. Works well. I can't always get Tron to sync up, but I am also using boards that don't work 100%. Usually I can get close enough though.
I just ran a few lines through the plastic case and mounted it using a bracket and a small bit of prototyping board.
JB
--James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
-----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner- techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of James Bright Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:14 AM To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
You didn't by chance see a similar pot labeled H-FREQ? I believe that's what it was labeled on the board itself.
Thanks for the link. If I have time, I'll see if I can set something up this weekend (going out of town on business so it may be a couple of days).
JB
--James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
----- Original Message ----- From: "Franklin Bowen" <Franklin@Bowen.net> To: "James Bright" <james@quarterarcade.com>; <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
I agree, outside of sync problems, the monitor works great for vids. Let me know how it works as I'm interested too. Looking at the schematics I found (http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1084P/):
Horiz. Sync, R437, 22K Vert. Sync, R331, 47K
HTH
At 07:00 AM 3/2/2004, James Bright wrote:
This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back).
I had this just happen with Tron (had to build a simple circuit to combine /H and /V sync too...).
I put everything back together and tested it with another JAMMA board (MKII) and it wouldn't sync. I'm thinking I'm just going to mount that pot on the case so that I don't have to keep pulling it apart. Anyone done that before? It's a tiny trim pot and I had this idea after I reassembled everything. Anyone know what the value of the pot is?
Otherwise using this monitor has been great.
JB
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I didn't see the V-HOLD pot on the main board when I pulled mine apart. (I just may have missed it). That being said, simply adjusting the H-HOLD may actually solve your problem. Have you tried that? JB --James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
-----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner- techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Rossiter Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:15 PM To: 'James Bright'; techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: RE: Follow up 1084s question
Is there a way to install a V-Hold pot? I couldn't seem to find one on mine. My pac-man board slowly scrolls vertically on this monitor.
Matt
-----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner- techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of James Bright Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:41 PM To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: RE: Follow up 1084s question
Just a quick follow up note.
On my 1084S, it's pot R225, "H-HOLD" and according to my DMM, it's 30K. I mounted a 25K pot (more than adequate) externally on the casing. Works well. I can't always get Tron to sync up, but I am also using boards that don't work 100%. Usually I can get close enough though.
I just ran a few lines through the plastic case and mounted it using a bracket and a small bit of prototyping board.
JB
--James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
-----Original Message----- From: owner-techtoolslist@flippers.com [mailto:owner- techtoolslist@flippers.com] On Behalf Of James Bright Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:14 AM To: techtoolslist@flippers.com Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
You didn't by chance see a similar pot labeled H-FREQ? I believe that's what it was labeled on the board itself.
Thanks for the link. If I have time, I'll see if I can set something up this weekend (going out of town on business so it may be a couple of days).
JB
--James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
----- Original Message ----- From: "Franklin Bowen" <Franklin@Bowen.net> To: "James Bright" <james@quarterarcade.com>; <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Follow up 1084s question
I agree, outside of sync problems, the monitor works great for vids. Let me know how it works as I'm interested too. Looking at the schematics I found (http://staff.washington.edu/rrcc/uwweb/1084P/):
Horiz. Sync, R437, 22K Vert. Sync, R331, 47K
HTH
At 07:00 AM 3/2/2004, James Bright wrote:
This requires removing the case and finding the H.FREQ pot.. this is often near the front of the tube on the right (if you looked from the back).
I had this just happen with Tron (had to build a simple circuit to combine /H and /V sync too...).
I put everything back together and tested it with another JAMMA board (MKII) and it wouldn't sync. I'm thinking I'm just going to mount that pot on the case so that I don't have to keep pulling it apart. Anyone done that before? It's a tiny trim pot and I had this idea after I reassembled everything. Anyone know what the value of the pot is?
Otherwise using this monitor has been great.
JB
--James Bright www.QuarterArcade.com Restored Arcade Games for your Home
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