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Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fish" <dfish_1@comcast.net> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

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Hey Joe,

Unfortunately, I've never been able to get the modified version to work, dunno why not, others have. I ended up keeping a laptop w/Win 3.1 to run the original, un-modified version. I tried multiple computers but always the same WIN XP disks, maybe that had something to do with it. YMMV.

Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Magiera" <joemagiera@ameritech.net> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

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Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC running Windows XP?

I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP. A pretty unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).

Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running? Thanks,

Joe joemagiera@ameritech.net

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I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP. Is your cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the Data I/O manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600 N 8 1. Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS? Best Regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP? Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera@ameritech.net> wrote:

Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC running Windows XP?

I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP. A pretty unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).

Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running? Thanks,

Joe joemagiera@ameritech.net

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The cable isn't a standard serial cable? Did you have to mod the cable or is it some other standard cable that I can just get at my local PC store? Joe -----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:51 PM To: 'Technical Tools Mail List' Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP? I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP. Is your cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the Data I/O manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600 N 8 1. Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS? Best Regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP? Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera@ameritech.net> wrote:

Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC running Windows XP?

I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP. A pretty unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).

Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running? Thanks,

Joe joemagiera@ameritech.net

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Modified the subject to be more accurate... Martin, thanks much for that info. Ok, can anyone else confirm that they use a cable/connection as shown in the link below, or have they been able to use a standard serial 25 pin cable on both sides (Data I/O and PC)? Thanks, Joe -----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of martin@guddler.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:43 AM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP? I had no idea that mark's website had now gone, but thanks to archives, here's the info you need: http://web.archive.org/web/20051230044833/www.leopardcats.com/dio/dataioseri al.htm I can confirm that his info is correct since he made the cable that I have here. Martin. On 27 Nov 2007, at 14:37, Joe Magiera wrote:

The cable isn't a standard serial cable? Did you have to mod the cable or is it some other standard cable that I can just get at my local PC store?

Joe

-----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Karkula Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:51 PM To: 'Technical Tools Mail List' Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

I can confirm the version below works on my Dell PIII-700 and XP. Is your cable OK? You do need a specifically wired cable as shown in the Data I/O manual and to set the baud rate (going from my memory here) to 9600 N 8 1. Also, is the serial port enabled in your BIOS?

Best Regards,

Bill -----Original Message----- From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Arcadeforever Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B on XP?

Works fine for me too, download the version from mikes arcade.com

On Nov 26, 2007 3:44 PM, Joseph Magiera <joemagiera@ameritech.net> wrote:

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Can anyone confirm that they can interface with a Data I/O 29B using a PC running Windows XP?

I finally am going to try to get my Data I/O going, and I plan on using a Pentium III, 500mg PC, loaded with Windows XP. A pretty unpowerful computer by today's standard, but should be plenty for running the Data I/O software (if it can indeed work on XP).

Any tips or tricks to note on installing/running? Thanks,

Joe joemagiera@ameritech.net

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Anyone have this schematic? I have the BI-PLANE, but there are significant differences between the two - at least on one board. Thanks, John :-#)# -- How to subscribe or unsubscribe from TTL: http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment

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Wow, that sound like a real pain I definately dont do that, you are doing the same thing I am, except I use win 98SE, but yes null modem cable, unit set to remote( I forget the dipswitch settings) it all should work fine, one piece of advice though, make sure you dont have any (Blackberry, palm pilot) software using the serial port that will muck it up for sure. Wayne On Nov 30, 2007 10:49 AM, Andy Welburn <warlords@punkass.com> wrote:

I use my workshop pc (a P3-800) with the modified version, using a null modem cable i think? its not a special modified cable, just something off the shelf.

I run windows XP, file system is FAT32, dunno if that makes any difference?

but.... here's the thing... The only way it works for me is if i switch the programmer on, wait for it to finish its self test... it'll say 'remote mode' then i have 30 seconds to load up the promlink software, and perform an action, any action that has to talk to the programmer, like 'process' or 'fill ram from master'.

It seems that if i don't do that, the programmer times out and the com port gets 'stuck' and i have to reboot, there's no way of clearing it. Also power cycling the 29b just goes through the self-test then instead of going to remote mode reports somethgin like 'i/o error 33' which can be cleared by disconnecting the serial cable and power cycling, then re-attatching the serial cable, but it'll crash again with the i/o error if you havn't rebooted the pc :-)

Thing is, the action i have to do doesn't need to do anything, and you don't need to actually perform it, it just has to send something to the programmer to tell it which socket to use, once its done that, it never times out and i never have any problems with it.

Also, never switch the 29b on with a blank PROM in any of the sockets, it will bugger them up.

Am i the only one that has to work with it like that? I don't mind really, its been rock solid for the 8 years I've owned it, this particular pc/OS configuration hasn't changed for at least 5 years i'd say... it works perfectly otherwise.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Magiera" <joemagiera@ameritech.net> To: "'Technical Tools Mail List'" <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: [Techtoolslist] Data I/O 29B to PC cable?

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Modified the subject to be more accurate...

Martin, thanks much for that info.

Ok, can anyone else confirm that they use a cable/connection as shown in the link below, or have they been able to use a standard serial 25 pin cable on both sides (Data I/O and PC)? Thanks,

Joe

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