Shipping delicate test equipment....
I don't know what you folks experience is in shipping stuff, but I just bought one of the Ariums on eBay and when it arrived it was a bit broken up inside - see small picture - so I sent the following note to the seller of the next Arium I won: ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Might I ask you to pack this securely? I just received another Arium that I had won in a previous auction and the two circuit boards inside the unit had broken their pc card edge connectors due to shock in transit. Plus the handle snapped one of it's lock buttons and the rear of the unit was bent a bit. This WAS packed in a big box with lots of chunks of foam... If possible I would ask you if you could please remove the two (or three?) small PC style circuit boards that are in the center of the unit and pack them with the pods. Then could you pack the Arium in it's own box, filled with peanuts, then place that box in a larger one, then the pods (and possibly the two/three boards) would be packed in a second smaller box and placed with the boxed Arium in the single bigger box that is also then filled with "peanuts"? I hope that is not inconvenient for you. But I really would like this to arrive in working condition. And it is somewhat fragile as I have found out to my dismay. I won't hold you responsible at all for shipping damage, we all take our chances, as long as it is well packed - that is reasonable, isn't it? We have shipped many items using this method including Pachinkos ( lots of plastic bits to break off) and old pinball backglasses and none have broken in transit." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of equipment. for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well. John :-#)# "Arium-Damage.JPG" (missing attachment)
Hey! Aren't you the one who's always busting our chops about not sending attachments?! I don't really care, but you whined about my attaching that 2k text file, so...
From the looks of the picture, I'd say some duct tape should fix you right up. Especially those custom widened edge connectors!
-Mark
I don't know what you folks experience is in shipping stuff, but I just bought one of the Ariums on eBay and when it arrived it was a bit broken up inside - see small picture - so I sent the following note to the seller of the next Arium I won: ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Might I ask you to pack this securely? I just received another Arium that ey! I had won in a previous auction and the two circuit boards inside the unit had broken their pc card edge connectors due to shock in transit. Plus the handle snapped one of it's lock buttons and the rear of the unit was bent a bit. This WAS packed in a big box with lots of chunks of foam...
If possible I would ask you if you could please remove the two (or three?) small PC style circuit boards that are in the center of the unit and pack them with the pods. Then could you pack the Arium in it's own box, filled with peanuts, then place that box in a larger one, then the pods (and possibly the two/three boards) would be packed in a second smaller box and placed with the boxed Arium in the single bigger box that is also then filled with "peanuts"? I hope that is not inconvenient for you. But I really would like this to arrive in working condition. And it is somewhat fragile as I have found out to my dismay. I won't hold you responsible at all for shipping damage, we all take our chances, as long as it is well packed - that is reasonable, isn't it?
We have shipped many items using this method including Pachinkos ( lots of plastic bits to break off) and old pinball backglasses and none have broken in transit." ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of equipment. for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
John :-#)#
And I thought Mark was going to announce he'd figured out how to move binaries in/out the 9010A...... Kev
Hey! Aren't you the one who's always busting our chops about not sending attachments?!
I don't really care, but you whined about my attaching that 2k text file, so...
From the looks of the picture, I'd say some duct tape should fix you right up. Especially those custom widened edge connectors!
-Mark
I don't know what you folks experience is in shipping stuff, but I just bought one of the Ariums on eBay and when it arrived it was a bit broken up inside - see small picture - so I sent the following note to the seller
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the next Arium I won: ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Might I ask you to pack this securely? I just received another Arium that ey! I had won in a previous auction and the two circuit boards inside the unit had broken their pc card edge connectors due to shock in transit. Plus the handle snapped one of it's lock buttons and the rear of the unit was bent a bit. This WAS packed in a big box with lots of chunks of foam...
If possible I would ask you if you could please remove the two (or three?) small PC style circuit boards that are in the center of the unit and pack them with the pods. Then could you pack the Arium in it's own box, filled with peanuts, then place that box in a larger one, then the pods (and possibly the two/three boards) would be packed in a second smaller box and placed with the boxed Arium in the single bigger box that is also then filled with "peanuts"? I hope that is not inconvenient for you. But I really would like this to arrive in working condition. And it is somewhat fragile as I have found out to my dismay. I won't hold you responsible at all for shipping damage, we all take our chances, as long as it is well packed - that is reasonable, isn't it?
We have shipped many items using this method including Pachinkos ( lots of plastic bits to break off) and old pinball backglasses and none have broken in transit." ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of equipment. for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
John :-#)#
I believe it is in the NEWSGROUPS where I "bust chops" about attachments. The charters for all the regular newsgroups are "No Binaries" (this is too keep the volume down to a 'manageable' amount of data for the servers - they store 10,000+ newsgroups and really don't want to have their volume exponentially increase with binaries), they can only be posted in the "alt.binaries.xxx" and can happily compete with the porn pictures there... Good point here though, I have no problem with the mail list binaries unless others don't want them. How do the others feel? We could make a rule that attachments are under 100K or perhaps 500K...comments? Or I can follow the newsgroup rules and post a link to the picture. currently I feel that any attachment relating to the topic of Test Equipment is OK, providing it is not huge (500k+) those can be emailed to me for posting to the hosting site ftp.flippers.com/Fluke I am going to edit that site to support additional PDFs of other test equipment, I just received a partial PDF of the Arium ML4100 Operating Manual for example. That is going up on the PDFs subsection until I sort these out a bit more and create a web page for the mess. John :-#)# At 01:43 AM 23/04/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Hey! Aren't you the one who's always busting our chops about not sending attachments?!
I don't really care, but you whined about my attaching that 2k text file, so...
From the looks of the picture, I'd say some duct tape should fix you right up. Especially those custom widened edge connectors!
-Mark
I don't know what you folks experience is in shipping stuff, but I just bought one of the Ariums on eBay and when it arrived it was a bit broken up inside - see small picture - so I sent the following note to the seller of the next Arium I won: ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Might I ask you to pack this securely? I just received another Arium that ey! I had won in a previous auction and the two circuit boards inside the unit had broken their pc card edge connectors due to shock in transit. Plus the handle snapped one of it's lock buttons and the rear of the unit was bent a bit. This WAS packed in a big box with lots of chunks of foam...
If possible I would ask you if you could please remove the two (or three?) small PC style circuit boards that are in the center of the unit and pack them with the pods. Then could you pack the Arium in it's own box, filled with peanuts, then place that box in a larger one, then the pods (and possibly the two/three boards) would be packed in a second smaller box and placed with the boxed Arium in the single bigger box that is also then filled with "peanuts"? I hope that is not inconvenient for you. But I really would like this to arrive in working condition. And it is somewhat fragile as I have found out to my dismay. I won't hold you responsible at all for shipping damage, we all take our chances, as long as it is well packed - that is reasonable, isn't it?
We have shipped many items using this method including Pachinkos ( lots of plastic bits to break off) and old pinball backglasses and none have broken in transit." ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of equipment. for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
John :-#)#
Sorry; I have trouble letting go. (I guess that's why I work on this stuff ;-)
I believe it is in the NEWSGROUPS where I "bust chops" about attachments...
----- Original Message ----- From: John Robertson To: techToolsList@flippers.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: 6809 Disassembler? Yes, it appears to forward attachments...let's keep them small folks! Or post them to either me or the "incoming" page and I'll host them. ftp://www.flippers.com/incoming John :-#)# At 02:46 AM 14/03/2002 -0600, Mark Shostak wrote: Here's Sean's: -Mark P.S. Does this list fwd attachments (John)?
Shrugging....well, I am GOD here, eh? SO what I say goes... wait, don't run away I am a gentle god... Please stay.... ah heck, I've scarred them all off again, shouldn't have sent those darn bears to eat those kids.... OK, I'll live by my rules, I promise, cross my heart...boy I hate to be hoisted by my own petards - and what the heck are petards anyway? Do I want to know??? John :-#)# At 09:37 AM 23/04/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Sorry; I have trouble letting go. (I guess that's why I work on this stuff ;-)
I believe it is in the NEWSGROUPS where I "bust chops" about attachments...
----- Original Message ----- From: John Robertson To: techToolsList@flippers.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: 6809 Disassembler?
Yes, it appears to forward attachments...let's keep them small folks! Or post them to either me or the "incoming" page and I'll host them.
ftp://www.flippers.com/incoming
John :-#)#
At 02:46 AM 14/03/2002 -0600, Mark Shostak wrote:
Here's Sean's:
-Mark
P.S. Does this list fwd attachments (John)?
Good point here though, I have no problem with the mail list binaries unless others don't want them. How do the others feel?
I'm on dial-up so big files are a pain. I don't mind small picture attachments...
I am going to edit that site to support additional PDFs of other test equipment, I just received a partial PDF of the Arium ML4100 Operating Manual for example. That is going up on the PDFs subsection until I sort these out a bit more and create a web page for the mess.
Just post the PDFs in directories, I don't think the people accessing these need a web page (but going thru the work proxy server/firewall to your FTP isn't easy....) Kev
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