I had some bad luck with a 3 box shipment (monitor, cpu and parts). The monitor had the misfortune of having a fork lift put through the box pretty much dead center. "ouch". The box the cpu was shipped back in (a fairly large unit) was in the orignal factory packaging. Well, the box showed up back at Tektronix with the corners rounded. And when they opened the cpu box they poured out the pieces -- due to the really rough handling, the power supply (an old linear one) had torn loose and bounced around. The third box was just fine. It had the mouse and keyboard in it. Well, the Tek rep was totally pissed 'cause it was a loaner unit and he really needed it back. He was pissed, that is, until he found out that we'd insured the shipment for $25k. He loved us after that. (this was back in the late 80s). The current damage that I see is small boxes that seem to get run over by the fedex truck. Customer calls up and says "it's smashed". The worker dudes are sneaky. They'll usually put all the pieces in a new box and send it on its way. But they use the old waybill, which typically shows up the tire treads just fine. No way to protect items from that kind of abuse. The best advice to give to people is to always SAVE the packaging until you've determined if it's broken or not. Also if you see obvious damage to the boxes make the delivery dude write a report on it. Otherwise there is no proof that THEY caused the damage. But it is tough to get fedex/ups/whoever to pay for a poorly packed box. No matter what THEY did to it.... The other thing is to know who fedex/ups believes to be the "SHIPPER". Obvious you say. Not really. When you ship through a Mailboxes Etc. or Office Depot then they are the shipper. Until such time as you need to find out who it is -- like if you need to start a trace. Then, well, good luck in figuring it all out. The amount of crap they make you go through is impressive. But if you're nice to the ups/fedex folks and don't go ballistic they will typically try and help you out (at least that's been my experience).. Kurt kmahan@xmission.com
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of equipment. for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
I purchased a Sencore CR7000 from ebay. It was shipped to me in a big box with 2 pieces of newspaper, and a fishing float. Needless to say... It arrived with a cracked case, and unoperational... Callan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Mahan" <kmahan@xmission.com> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:17 AM Subject: Shipping delicate test equipment...
I had some bad luck with a 3 box shipment (monitor, cpu and parts). The monitor had the misfortune of having a fork lift put through the box pretty much dead center. "ouch". The box the cpu was shipped back in (a fairly large unit) was in the orignal factory packaging. Well, the box showed up back at Tektronix with the corners rounded. And when they opened the cpu box they poured out the pieces -- due to the really rough handling, the power supply (an old linear one) had torn loose and bounced around. The third box was just fine. It had the mouse and keyboard in it.
Well, the Tek rep was totally pissed 'cause it was a loaner unit and he really needed it back. He was pissed, that is, until he found out that we'd insured the shipment for $25k. He loved us after that. (this was back in the late 80s).
The current damage that I see is small boxes that seem to get run over by the fedex truck. Customer calls up and says "it's smashed". The worker dudes are sneaky. They'll usually put all the pieces in a new box and send it on its way. But they use the old waybill, which typically shows up the tire treads just fine. No way to protect items from that kind of abuse.
The best advice to give to people is to always SAVE the packaging until you've determined if it's broken or not. Also if you see obvious damage to the boxes make the delivery dude write a report on it. Otherwise there is no proof that THEY caused the damage. But it is tough to get fedex/ups/whoever to pay for a poorly packed box. No matter what THEY did to it....
The other thing is to know who fedex/ups believes to be the "SHIPPER". Obvious you say. Not really. When you ship through a Mailboxes Etc. or Office Depot then they are the shipper. Until such time as you need to find out who it is -- like if you need to start a trace. Then, well, good luck in figuring it all out. The amount of crap they make you go through is impressive. But if you're nice to the ups/fedex folks and don't go ballistic they will typically try and help you out (at least that's been my experience)..
Kurt kmahan@xmission.com
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of
equipment.
for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
How about we take pictures of bad shipping practice results (open the box and find....) and we can create a "shipping" page for the archive that all can link to that can be sent to sellers of equipment to help avoid these fishing floats? Send me an email with a description and picture or two and I'll try and set up a nice page on flippers that all can link to that will help cover this issue. Or, conversely, has anyone spotted a good "How-to" page on shipping that we can link to? John :-#)# At 08:54 AM 23/04/2002 -0500, Vidpin Amusements wrote:
I purchased a Sencore CR7000 from ebay. It was shipped to me in a big box with 2 pieces of newspaper, and a fishing float. Needless to say... It arrived with a cracked case, and unoperational...
Callan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Mahan" <kmahan@xmission.com> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:17 AM Subject: Shipping delicate test equipment...
I had some bad luck with a 3 box shipment (monitor, cpu and parts). The monitor had the misfortune of having a fork lift put through the box pretty much dead center. "ouch". The box the cpu was shipped back in (a fairly large unit) was in the orignal factory packaging. Well, the box showed up back at Tektronix with the corners rounded. And when they opened the cpu box they poured out the pieces -- due to the really rough handling, the power supply (an old linear one) had torn loose and bounced around. The third box was just fine. It had the mouse and keyboard in it.
Well, the Tek rep was totally pissed 'cause it was a loaner unit and he really needed it back. He was pissed, that is, until he found out that we'd insured the shipment for $25k. He loved us after that. (this was back in the late 80s).
The current damage that I see is small boxes that seem to get run over by the fedex truck. Customer calls up and says "it's smashed". The worker dudes are sneaky. They'll usually put all the pieces in a new box and send it on its way. But they use the old waybill, which typically shows up the tire treads just fine. No way to protect items from that kind of abuse.
The best advice to give to people is to always SAVE the packaging until you've determined if it's broken or not. Also if you see obvious damage to the boxes make the delivery dude write a report on it. Otherwise there is no proof that THEY caused the damage. But it is tough to get fedex/ups/whoever to pay for a poorly packed box. No matter what THEY did to it....
The other thing is to know who fedex/ups believes to be the "SHIPPER". Obvious you say. Not really. When you ship through a Mailboxes Etc. or Office Depot then they are the shipper. Until such time as you need to find out who it is -- like if you need to start a trace. Then, well, good luck in figuring it all out. The amount of crap they make you go through is impressive. But if you're nice to the ups/fedex folks and don't go ballistic they will typically try and help you out (at least that's been my experience)..
Kurt kmahan@xmission.com
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of
equipment.
for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
You're not worried about giving the shippers any ideas? ----- Original Message ----- From: John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> To: Vidpin Amusements <callan@vidpin.com>; <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Shipping delicate test equipment...
How about we take pictures of bad shipping practice results (open the box and find....) and we can create a "shipping" page for the archive that all can link to that can be sent to sellers of equipment to help avoid these fishing floats? Send me an email with a description and picture or two and I'll try and set up a nice page on flippers that all can link to that will help cover this issue.
Or, conversely, has anyone spotted a good "How-to" page on shipping that
we
can link to?
John :-#)#
At 08:54 AM 23/04/2002 -0500, Vidpin Amusements wrote:
I purchased a Sencore CR7000 from ebay. It was shipped to me in a big box with 2 pieces of newspaper, and a fishing float. Needless to say... It arrived with a cracked case, and unoperational...
Callan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Mahan" <kmahan@xmission.com> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:17 AM Subject: Shipping delicate test equipment...
I had some bad luck with a 3 box shipment (monitor, cpu and parts).
The
monitor had the misfortune of having a fork lift put through the box pretty much dead center. "ouch". The box the cpu was shipped back in (a fairly large unit) was in the orignal factory packaging. Well, the box showed up back at Tektronix with the corners rounded. And when they opened the cpu box they poured out the pieces -- due to the really rough handling, the power supply (an old linear one) had torn loose and bounced around. The third box was just fine. It had the mouse and keyboard in it.
Well, the Tek rep was totally pissed 'cause it was a loaner unit and he really needed it back. He was pissed, that is, until he found out that we'd insured the shipment for $25k. He loved us after that. (this was back in the late 80s).
The current damage that I see is small boxes that seem to get run over by the fedex truck. Customer calls up and says "it's smashed". The worker dudes are sneaky. They'll usually put all the pieces in a new box and send it on its way. But they use the old waybill, which typically shows up the tire treads just fine. No way to protect items from that kind of abuse.
The best advice to give to people is to always SAVE the packaging until you've determined if it's broken or not. Also if you see obvious damage to the boxes make the delivery dude write a report on it. Otherwise there is no proof that THEY caused the damage. But it is tough to get fedex/ups/whoever to pay for a poorly packed box. No matter what THEY did to it....
The other thing is to know who fedex/ups believes to be the "SHIPPER". Obvious you say. Not really. When you ship through a Mailboxes Etc. or Office Depot then they are the shipper. Until such time as you need to find out who it is -- like if you need to start a trace. Then, well, good luck in figuring it all out. The amount of crap they make you go through is impressive. But if you're nice to the ups/fedex folks and don't go ballistic they will typically try and help you out (at least that's been my experience)..
Kurt kmahan@xmission.com
Comments? Any one else have nasty surprises when they opened a box? I've had the points snapped off of probes, pins mangled on pods etc, so I am careful to describe recommended method of packing to sellers of equipment. for example - the Fluke Pods, it is IMPERITIVE that the plugs are taped after locked into the self test socket on the pod. Shipping tape works very well.
http://interprisenow.com/crating/index.htm Model airplanes but very good packaging method for bigger items. Kev
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