Well, I've decided that the shop needs money more than I need another toy, so I am going to sell my last NOS 9100 system. It's hard drive crashed on the third power-up and I've ordered a replacement (9100) 20Meg SCSI from NAVATEK.com, this will be formatted and have the original software installed and thus ready to go. Included with the 9100 is a (sealed) 9132, a bunch of 680XX and 80286, 80386 adapters for the 9132 (all sealed), and a bunch of pods. plus two each of 32, 28, and 24 pin adapters. Ram upgrades for the 9132... 9100 probe, Signature Clock module, Service , operators, etc manuals and factory operators software disc set. Complete set of manuals: pods, 9132, etc. The base has been run on my bench for just a few hours, still has the original factory warranty decals and seals. This was one of the units whose floppies I archived for working on the serial number issue. Nice bright display! So if anyone is interested they can make an offer and I can send pictures to them of the nice aluminized sealed baggies - airtight, they hiss when opened! For the record I sold one of these on $2,000US, the second one sold on eBay for $2,500US. This is the very last NOS one...really...I have no more NOS units. I am keeping my old 9100 (noisy hard drive) as it is complete. John :-#)#
Can I interest you in some magic beans? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:15 AM Subject: FS: Last NOS 9100A
Well, I've decided that the shop needs money more than I need another toy, so I am going to sell my last NOS 9100 system. It's hard drive crashed on the third power-up and I've ordered a replacement (9100) 20Meg SCSI from NAVATEK.com, this will be formatted and have the original software installed and thus ready to go.
Included with the 9100 is a (sealed) 9132, a bunch of 680XX and 80286, 80386 adapters for the 9132 (all sealed), and a bunch of pods. plus two each of 32, 28, and 24 pin adapters. Ram upgrades for the 9132... 9100 probe, Signature Clock module, Service , operators, etc manuals and factory operators software disc set. Complete set of manuals: pods, 9132, etc.
The base has been run on my bench for just a few hours, still has the original factory warranty decals and seals. This was one of the units whose floppies I archived for working on the serial number issue. Nice bright display!
So if anyone is interested they can make an offer and I can send pictures to them of the nice aluminized sealed baggies - airtight, they hiss when opened! For the record I sold one of these on $2,000US, the second one sold on eBay for $2,500US.
This is the very last NOS one...really...I have no more NOS units. I am keeping my old 9100 (noisy hard drive) as it is complete.
John :-#)#
Gang, Anybody seen this or is it just my luck: Lately (in the last 6 to 12 months), I have come across a lot of pods which fail their self test with an error '00' code. The pods all seem to work fine when used in an actual UUT, but whine when tested. I've seen this on multiple pods and multiple 9010s. Not really sure what an error 00 is, either. Since it's not service affecting, I haven't bothered to dig into it, but thought I'd ask before possibly wasting time on an issue someone else has already wasted time on. Anyone seen this? -Mark
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me... You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you? John :-#)# At 01:33 AM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Gang,
Anybody seen this or is it just my luck:
Lately (in the last 6 to 12 months), I have come across a lot of pods which fail their self test with an error '00' code.
The pods all seem to work fine when used in an actual UUT, but whine when tested.
I've seen this on multiple pods and multiple 9010s.
Not really sure what an error 00 is, either.
Since it's not service affecting, I haven't bothered to dig into it, but thought I'd ask before possibly wasting time on an issue someone else has already wasted time on.
Anyone seen this?
-Mark
Rodger/John/All,
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me...
I've tried that with mixed results; mainly no go. In fact, generally, if I don't mess with it (as specified above), it won't even go into self test.
You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you?
Um, like I tell my mother - "most of the time". However, I seem to find this problem either way. The DIP doesn't seem to seat in those ZIFs very well. They seem to rock across the center of the plug (as in, they pivot across the long axis). Maybe it's just that those ZIFs, at least when combined with the particular DIPs Fluke used, suck. The fact that the pods otherwise (seem to) work perfectly, supports that theory. Does anyone know what the 00 error is? -Mark --- It's a Fluke if it works...
The rocking you are talking about is probably those little bits of plastic on the underside of the IC socket, I trim them off so the socket fits flat in the ZIF self-test socket. 00 = ? I thought I had that info somewhere but it's hiding... John :-#)# At 02:41 AM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Rodger/John/All,
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me...
I've tried that with mixed results; mainly no go. In fact, generally, if I don't mess with it (as specified above), it won't even go into self test.
You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you?
Um, like I tell my mother - "most of the time".
However, I seem to find this problem either way. The DIP doesn't seem to seat in those ZIFs very well. They seem to rock across the center of the plug (as in, they pivot across the long axis).
Maybe it's just that those ZIFs, at least when combined with the particular DIPs Fluke used, suck. The fact that the pods otherwise (seem to) work perfectly, supports that theory.
Does anyone know what the 00 error is?
-Mark
--- It's a Fluke if it works...
Page 6-3 of the 6809 manual covers this error (00). If you don't have the 6809 manual it was archived: http://www.stormaster.com/Spies/arcade/TE/index.html John :-#)# At 02:41 AM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Rodger/John/All,
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me...
I've tried that with mixed results; mainly no go. In fact, generally, if I don't mess with it (as specified above), it won't even go into self test.
You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you?
Um, like I tell my mother - "most of the time".
However, I seem to find this problem either way. The DIP doesn't seem to seat in those ZIFs very well. They seem to rock across the center of the plug (as in, they pivot across the long axis).
Maybe it's just that those ZIFs, at least when combined with the particular DIPs Fluke used, suck. The fact that the pods otherwise (seem to) work perfectly, supports that theory.
Does anyone know what the 00 error is?
-Mark
--- It's a Fluke if it works...
Whatever.... FYA, here's what happened. I'm not sure this counts as an RTFM kind of problem. First off, the DIP is rock solid, that is, (on this pod) it does not rock. Powered it up and invoked "BUS" test. Display came back with ST Fail 00, yada, yada read @ F0000 to determine which test failed (per manual) Display came back with "DATA ERR - LOOP?" I then read @FFFFF, just for grins Display came back with "ST PASS" I then invoked the "BUS" test again Display came back with "ST PASS" I read @F0000 Display came back with FF, as it should Now it won't fail. PFM. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Pod Self-Test Error
Page 6-3 of the 6809 manual covers this error (00). If you don't have the 6809 manual it was archived:
http://www.stormaster.com/Spies/arcade/TE/index.html
John :-#)#
At 02:41 AM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Rodger/John/All,
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me...
I've tried that with mixed results; mainly no go. In fact, generally, if I don't mess with it (as specified above), it won't even go into self test.
You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you?
Um, like I tell my mother - "most of the time".
However, I seem to find this problem either way. The DIP doesn't seem to seat in those ZIFs very well. They seem to rock across the center of the plug (as in, they pivot across the long axis).
Maybe it's just that those ZIFs, at least when combined with the particular DIPs Fluke used, suck. The fact that the pods otherwise (seem to) work perfectly, supports that theory.
Does anyone know what the 00 error is?
-Mark
--- It's a Fluke if it works...
A few pods of mine that were acting up smartened up after I took them apart and re-seated the inter-board connectors, cable plugs, etc. a couple of times... John :-#)# At 12:54 PM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Whatever....
FYA, here's what happened. I'm not sure this counts as an RTFM kind of problem.
First off, the DIP is rock solid, that is, (on this pod) it does not rock.
Powered it up and invoked "BUS" test. Display came back with ST Fail 00, yada, yada read @ F0000 to determine which test failed (per manual) Display came back with "DATA ERR - LOOP?" I then read @FFFFF, just for grins Display came back with "ST PASS" I then invoked the "BUS" test again Display came back with "ST PASS" I read @F0000 Display came back with FF, as it should
Now it won't fail. PFM.
----- Original Message ----- From: John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> To: <techtoolslist@flippers.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Pod Self-Test Error
Page 6-3 of the 6809 manual covers this error (00). If you don't have the 6809 manual it was archived:
http://www.stormaster.com/Spies/arcade/TE/index.html
John :-#)#
At 02:41 AM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Rodger/John/All,
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me...
I've tried that with mixed results; mainly no go. In fact, generally, if I don't mess with it (as specified above), it won't even go into self test.
You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you?
Um, like I tell my mother - "most of the time".
However, I seem to find this problem either way. The DIP doesn't seem to seat in those ZIFs very well. They seem to rock across the center of the plug (as in, they pivot across the long axis).
Maybe it's just that those ZIFs, at least when combined with the particular DIPs Fluke used, suck. The fact that the pods otherwise (seem to) work perfectly, supports that theory.
Does anyone know what the 00 error is?
-Mark
--- It's a Fluke if it works...
Oh, and while looking in the manual it points out that the DIP switches on the pod must be correct for the CPU used. Also DIP 4 is left in only one position - it's for the self testing process only. You might have a bad pod DIP switch...I've replaced many a DIP switch on game boards or test fixtures...check it with a ohm-meter. John :-#)# At 02:41 AM 25/09/2002 -0500, Mark Shostak wrote:
Rodger/John/All,
For the most part I find that error is a bad connection to the self test socket. Try sliding the plug sideways in the test socket with it partially engaged. This works for me...
I've tried that with mixed results; mainly no go. In fact, generally, if I don't mess with it (as specified above), it won't even go into self test.
You DO put the pod's plug into a 40 pin socket to insert into the UUT don't you?
Um, like I tell my mother - "most of the time".
However, I seem to find this problem either way. The DIP doesn't seem to seat in those ZIFs very well. They seem to rock across the center of the plug (as in, they pivot across the long axis).
Maybe it's just that those ZIFs, at least when combined with the particular DIPs Fluke used, suck. The fact that the pods otherwise (seem to) work perfectly, supports that theory.
Does anyone know what the 00 error is?
-Mark
--- It's a Fluke if it works...
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