I have the board. Is that chip socketed? I'm not near it to have a look now. I have the track pack version.

On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Fabrizio Vasile <fabrizio.vasile@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, sadly there no available dump of these PAL around.I'm a contributor of this PAL database:

www.jammarcade.net

and we haven't them too.If someone could provide us the chip we would be happy to dump them

P.S. Could you tell me the exact location on PCB and label of this PAL?Maybe they are share with other Leland games.Thanks.

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It will be socketed, the Track Pack was an "Upgrade" from the regular and was Operator Installed Upgrade. I had a track pack board for a long time and just got rid of them. -----Original Message----- From: Techtoolslist [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Fabrizio Vasile Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:22 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] leland off road pal dump needed u85 It could be also socketed but most likely the chip is secured so it can't be read with a normal programmer.If your programmer support the PAL16L8 chip try to read it.If you obtain a .jed file filled with '1' then it means the device is secured.You need a special dumper in order to dump contents from secured PLDs (obvioulsy then dump must be analyzed in order to recreate equations for a GAL16V8 replacement) Il 16/03/2015 20:15, Gary M. McTaggart ha scritto:

I have the board. Is that chip socketed? I'm not near it to have a look now. I have the track pack version.

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On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Fabrizio Vasile <fabrizio.vasile@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, sadly there no available dump of these PAL around.I'm a contributor of this PAL database:

www.jammarcade.net

and we haven't them too.If someone could provide us the chip we would be happy to dump them

P.S. Could you tell me the exact location on PCB and label of this PAL?Maybe they are share with other Leland games.Thanks.

Il 16/03/2015 18:09, Tony htbs ha scritto:

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Ivan Stewarts off road

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Yes it is in a socket Tony -----Original Message----- From: Techtoolslist [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Gary M. McTaggart Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:15 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] leland off road pal dump needed u85 I have the board. Is that chip socketed? I'm not near it to have a look now. I have the track pack version.

On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Fabrizio Vasile <fabrizio.vasile@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, sadly there no available dump of these PAL around.I'm a contributor of this PAL database:

www.jammarcade.net

and we haven't them too.If someone could provide us the chip we would be happy to dump them

P.S. Could you tell me the exact location on PCB and label of this PAL?Maybe they are share with other Leland games.Thanks.

Il 16/03/2015 18:09, Tony htbs ha scritto:

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Ivan Stewarts off road

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Since it's an 16L8 (and not an 'R' or 'V') you don't have to worry about any hidden internal states. Back around ~2003, Tim Lindquist and I reverse engineered the Capcom CPS2 B board PALs. I made a little wiring adapter for the 16L8 to be read as a 2716 EPROM. (Connect all the inputs to the 'address' lines and the outputs to the 'data' lines.) Reading the "2716" produced a binary file of all the possible input/output combinations. I extracted that as text and formatted it in to ABEL table format like: PAL CONVERTER ; Converting: cap_caw.bin... [ 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] -> [ 0,1,0,1 ]; [ 1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] -> [ 0,1,0,1 ]; [ 0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] -> [ 0,1,0,1 ]; [ 1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] -> [ 0,1,0,1 ]; ... [ 0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 ] -> [ 1,1,1,0 ]; [ 1,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 ] -> [ 1,1,1,0 ]; [ 0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 ] -> [ 1,1,1,0 ]; [ 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 ] -> [ 1,1,1,0 ]; ...and then let the ABEL compiler reduce that to equations and a usable .JED for burning new parts. A pretty much automatic process that didn't really require any special 'pal cracking' capable hardware. The ABEL compiler also produced the intermediate equations which were much more compact than the big tables-- for example, ~2000 lines of the above stuff cooked down to: Y8 = (I4 & !I3 # I8 & !I4 & I10 # I4 & !I10 # !I8 & I4 # I7 # I6 # I5 # I2 # I1); Y6 = (I4 & I3 & I10 # I4 & !I3 & !I10 # I9 & I4 & I10 # !I8 & !I4 & !I10 # !I9 & !I8 & !I4 # I8 & I4 # !I7 # I6 # I5 # I2 # I1); Y4 = (I9 & I4 & !I3 # I4 & !I3 & !I10 # !I8 & I4 & I3 & I10 # !I7 & I4 & !I3 # !I7 & I4 & !I10 # I8 & I7 & I4 # I8 & !I7 & !I4 & I10 # !I8 & I7 & !I4 & !I10 # !I9 & !I8 & I7 & !I4 # I6 # I5 # I2 # I1); Y1 = (!I1); -Clay -----Original Message----- From: Techtoolslist [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Tony htbs Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:23 PM To: 'Technical Tools Mail List' Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] leland off road pal dump needed u85 U85 is the chip location I have the 2-22 u85 non track pac can you dump it if I get it to you Or can I dump it or get you a file I have several programmers I can get a 2-25 u85 trac pac but I need to get it back Where are you located Let me know thanks tony For Ivan Stewarts off road

The track pac should be 2-25

And non should be the 02-22

Pal16l8 is the chip

-----Original Message----- From: Techtoolslist [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of Fabrizio Vasile Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 2:02 PM To: Technical Tools Mail List Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] leland off road pal dump needed u85 Hi, sadly there no available dump of these PAL around.I'm a contributor of this PAL database: www.jammarcade.net and we haven't them too.If someone could provide us the chip we would be happy to dump them P.S. Could you tell me the exact location on PCB and label of this PAL?Maybe they are share with other Leland games.Thanks. Il 16/03/2015 18:09, Tony htbs ha scritto:

Ivan Stewarts off road

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