Hi, I’m currently working on a 286 project and am looking for the 80286 memory pod for the 9132A. If you have one available and are willing to part with it, please let me know. Additionally, I’m also interested in the 9132A-68000 memory pod if you happen to have one. Thanks! Marc _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site 2005-Current: https://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ Vectorlist Archives 1997/99 - 2016: https://www.vectorlist.org/
I'll check when I'm at my shop tonight and let you know. On Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 7:51 AM Marc Desfossés <mdesfoss@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’m currently working on a 286 project and am looking for the 80286 memory pod for the 9132A. If you have one available and are willing to part with it, please let me know. Additionally, I’m also interested in the 9132A-68000 memory pod if you happen to have one. Thanks! Marc
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 7:51 AM Marc Desfossés <mdesfoss@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’m currently working on a 286 project and am looking for the 80286 memory pod for the 9132A. If you have one available and are willing to part with it, please let me know. Additionally, I’m also interested in the 9132A-68000 memory pod if you happen to have one.
Anything 9132A (and obviously 9132FT) that wasn't part of the AF kit is very hard to find. I've never posted about this. I suppose I should in case I get run over by a bus or decide I can't make it through another 4 years of Trump. Long ago I stumbled on this: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.cpm/c/BWGqrrgcOTU/m/9slgXo2ax0IJ I thought I'd posted here asking if anyone had a copy of the manual which was titled "9132A Pod Retargetter's Course" (August 13, 1990, 382 pgs) but I can't find it in the Techtools archive. The course was only given one time to 9 attendees. Anyhow using my full ex-girlfriend stalking skills I tracked Doug down by telephone back in 2021. I was the first person to ask him in 20 years. He'd been asked previously just after he posted on Usenet (he'd left Fluke by then). He told me he'd reached out to Fluke asking if he could release the manual and the response was "we will sue you if you release it". So he would only give it to me with written auth from Fluke. I ended up getting that auth from Fluke and Doug's response was then "ok but what about all the other stuff". What other stuff. It turned out he had the full source tree for the 9132A and FT. Plus a bunch of other docs. So I go back to Fluke again and I'm now in possession of all that. All the code for the personality modules (PAL + EPROM) and all the TL/1 code (including the unreleased 9132A-z80) plus all the C code for the 9132A/9132FT main units. Alas none of the schematics for the sync module adapters. Unfortunately I can't give it out as the auth was for my use only. It was clear that if I'd pushed for them to "open source" I'd have been shown the door. Also even though I treaded carefully and the person I dealt with at Fluke was very pleasant at the end of this second pass through the tone was one of "we've done all we intend to, please don't contact us again". So I need to be clear on the following. I'm not going to give out the person's name but if someone wants to make a fresh pass through Fluke legal to try and get this all released under a wider license I'd obviously assist. Back before I found a contact at Fluke I'd reached out to Al Kossow (as I know of his role at CHM) but never got a reply. Maybe he'd help more now though it's not exactly the Lisa level source code. It's funny as if Doug had only tar'd off the full source tree rather than just the Jane (9132) subset, I'd have all that code also. Rats. Clay (Cowgill) and I have agreed to be each other's tech equipment estate sale guardians if either of us croaks prematurely so I'll fwd this to Clay with a note on where to find the files. Tony _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site 2005-Current: https://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ Vectorlist Archives 1997/99 - 2016: https://www.vectorlist.org/
On 2025-01-16 8:12 p.m., Tony Jones wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 7:51 AM Marc Desfossés <mdesfoss@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’m currently working on a 286 project and am looking for the 80286 memory pod for the 9132A. If you have one available and are willing to part with it, please let me know. Additionally, I’m also interested in the 9132A-68000 memory pod if you happen to have one.
Anything 9132A (and obviously 9132FT) that wasn't part of the AF kit is very hard to find.
I've never posted about this. I suppose I should in case I get run over by a bus or decide I can't make it through another 4 years of Trump.
Long ago I stumbled on this: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.cpm/c/BWGqrrgcOTU/m/9slgXo2ax0IJ
I thought I'd posted here asking if anyone had a copy of the manual which was titled "9132A Pod Retargetter's Course" (August 13, 1990, 382 pgs) but I can't find it in the Techtools archive.
The course was only given one time to 9 attendees.
Anyhow using my full ex-girlfriend stalking skills I tracked Doug down by telephone back in 2021. I was the first person to ask him in 20 years. He'd been asked previously just after he posted on Usenet (he'd left Fluke by then). He told me he'd reached out to Fluke asking if he could release the manual and the response was "we will sue you if you release it". So he would only give it to me with written auth from Fluke.
I ended up getting that auth from Fluke and Doug's response was then "ok but what about all the other stuff". What other stuff. It turned out he had the full source tree for the 9132A and FT. Plus a bunch of other docs. So I go back to Fluke again and I'm now in possession of all that. All the code for the personality modules (PAL + EPROM) and all the TL/1 code (including the unreleased 9132A-z80) plus all the C code for the 9132A/9132FT main units. Alas none of the schematics for the sync module adapters.
Unfortunately I can't give it out as the auth was for my use only. It was clear that if I'd pushed for them to "open source" I'd have been shown the door. Also even though I treaded carefully and the person I dealt with at Fluke was very pleasant at the end of this second pass through the tone was one of "we've done all we intend to, please don't contact us again".
So I need to be clear on the following. I'm not going to give out the person's name but if someone wants to make a fresh pass through Fluke legal to try and get this all released under a wider license I'd obviously assist. Back before I found a contact at Fluke I'd reached out to Al Kossow (as I know of his role at CHM) but never got a reply. Maybe he'd help more now though it's not exactly the Lisa level source code.
It's funny as if Doug had only tar'd off the full source tree rather than just the Jane (9132) subset, I'd have all that code also. Rats.
Clay (Cowgill) and I have agreed to be each other's tech equipment estate sale guardians if either of us croaks prematurely so I'll fwd this to Clay with a note on where to find the files.
Tony
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I remember when you mentioned this but didn’t know you had managed to get all that data. Didn’t he post on the TTL directly saying that the intention was to be able to write your own drivers/libraries for any processor. How many people actually use the 9132 pod? Would the information you have allow you to make the 9132a pod more useable by showing us how to do this? I recently sort assistance from the Os9/68k crowd and we successfully retrieved the fluke OS9 modules from the binaries. The next step would be to shoe horn in a shell so we could get root access on the fluke. This might be useful. Regards Steve Larkins On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 at 04:14, Tony Jones <tony@tonyjones.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 7:51 AM Marc Desfossés <mdesfoss@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’m currently working on a 286 project and am looking for the 80286 memory pod for the 9132A. If you have one available and are willing to part with it, please let me know. Additionally, I’m also interested in the 9132A-68000 memory pod if you happen to have one.
Anything 9132A (and obviously 9132FT) that wasn't part of the AF kit is very hard to find.
I've never posted about this. I suppose I should in case I get run over by a bus or decide I can't make it through another 4 years of Trump.
Long ago I stumbled on this: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.cpm/c/BWGqrrgcOTU/m/9slgXo2ax0IJ
I thought I'd posted here asking if anyone had a copy of the manual which was titled "9132A Pod Retargetter's Course" (August 13, 1990, 382 pgs) but I can't find it in the Techtools archive.
The course was only given one time to 9 attendees.
Anyhow using my full ex-girlfriend stalking skills I tracked Doug down by telephone back in 2021. I was the first person to ask him in 20 years. He'd been asked previously just after he posted on Usenet (he'd left Fluke by then). He told me he'd reached out to Fluke asking if he could release the manual and the response was "we will sue you if you release it". So he would only give it to me with written auth from Fluke.
I ended up getting that auth from Fluke and Doug's response was then "ok but what about all the other stuff". What other stuff. It turned out he had the full source tree for the 9132A and FT. Plus a bunch of other docs. So I go back to Fluke again and I'm now in possession of all that. All the code for the personality modules (PAL + EPROM) and all the TL/1 code (including the unreleased 9132A-z80) plus all the C code for the 9132A/9132FT main units. Alas none of the schematics for the sync module adapters.
Unfortunately I can't give it out as the auth was for my use only. It was clear that if I'd pushed for them to "open source" I'd have been shown the door. Also even though I treaded carefully and the person I dealt with at Fluke was very pleasant at the end of this second pass through the tone was one of "we've done all we intend to, please don't contact us again".
So I need to be clear on the following. I'm not going to give out the person's name but if someone wants to make a fresh pass through Fluke legal to try and get this all released under a wider license I'd obviously assist. Back before I found a contact at Fluke I'd reached out to Al Kossow (as I know of his role at CHM) but never got a reply. Maybe he'd help more now though it's not exactly the Lisa level source code.
It's funny as if Doug had only tar'd off the full source tree rather than just the Jane (9132) subset, I'd have all that code also. Rats.
Clay (Cowgill) and I have agreed to be each other's tech equipment estate sale guardians if either of us croaks prematurely so I'll fwd this to Clay with a note on where to find the files.
Tony _______________________________________________ Techtoolslist mailing list Techtoolslist@flippers.com https://pairlist7.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/techtoolslist FTP site is: ftp://ftp.flippers.com/TTL/TestEquipment Archive site 2005-Current: https://seven.pairlist.net/pipermail/techtoolslist/ Vectorlist Archives 1997/99 - 2016: https://www.vectorlist.org/
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Barry Shilmover -
John Robertson via Techtoolslist -
Marc Desfossés -
Steve Larkins -
Tony Jones